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Please don't fulminate or sneer like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


New person to the conversation: I just want to say that even if the CEO's politics weren't awful I would never want a Tesla. I don't want a touchscreen to adjust the direction of the AC. Audio, climate and basic media functions should all have tactile control.

Tesla is to blame for my parents thinking EV = complicated iPad on wheels. An electric drivetrain doesn't have to come with a touchscreen UI for everything.


Volume up/down (scroll), previous/next track (left/right), mute/play (press) are all on the steering wheel's left button.

Not being able to adjust climate with a tactile control is mildly annoying, but the "temperature X degrees" voice control works fine.


You can change the temp and media etc on the steering wheel. Air is generally automatically adjusted


Yeah it's terrible, but it's way cheaper than engineering a bunch of buttons and switches, which is why Tesla did it. Somewhere along the line car makers decided non-mechanical door handles were a great idea too. Polestar is the only one that had some sense in that area.


So, I haven't driven a Ford EV for any significant amount of time so can't comment on the "navigating via chargers" part, but I'd take Ford's non-EV infotainment system over Tesla's system. Ford's is obnoxiously laggy, basically just above the bar of that I'd consider a shippable product, but Tesla's touchscreen for things that should be buttons is awful, and the lack of Android Auto/Carplay is crippling.

And tangential to the infotainment system, Tesla dropping sat radio receivers is pretty annoying if you're frequently outside of cell service.


Nah everything you need is available on the steering wheel contextually. You would know that if you had one. You would also know why Tesla owners don’t care for android auto or carplay much (though I recognize that it’s definitely a selling point because people have this stance from their experience with other cars, which suck)


Ah yes, no true Tesla owner.

> Tesla owners don’t care for android auto or carplay much

I suspect you're actually hitting a point, but it's not "people who buy Teslas realize that carplay doesn't matter", but rather "people who care about carplay don't buy Teslas".




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