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What's your point? To the extent they're a private company you're even less likely to get access to records from Flock ALPR cameras.




Just because the records created on behalf of the government are held by a private enterprise doesn't mean they aren't government records.

Right, I agree. My point is that the FOIA laws of many states forbid disclosing the data this web page purports to surface.

Yes but: Privatization is an effective way to negate the public's right know.

eg Some companies have claimed trade secret protections to prevent public access. Infamously, election administration vendors like Diebold.

I imagine anyone trying to investigate govt activities conducted by Palantir (for example) will run into similar stonewalling. Even getting the fulltext of contracts can be challenging.


Not automatically. There's aleeady case law(0x1) that ruled that images captured by Flock ALPR cameras are public records, even though the data are stored by Flock (a private vendor), not directly by the city.

The court rejected the notion that “because the data sits on a private server, it’s not a public record.” Instead, it said that since the surveillance is paid for by the public (taxpayers) and used by a public agency, the data must comply with the state’s public-records law.

This shows that — in at least one jurisdiction — using a private company to run ALPRs doesn’t shield the data from public-records requests.

(0x1) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/washington-court-rules...


> at the very least in my state (Illinois), it's not lawful for public bodies to disclose the license plate numbers read from ALPR cameras, so this data set is necessarily incomplete.

They're not a public body, that was my point


They de facto are because they only place cameras in public places and on public land by contract with the government in one form or another; be it with a treasonous sheriff or a treasonous state executive and legislature. The public would not be talking about Flock if they had not worked to create a treasonous surveillance state and instead only did things like monitored truck movements in a logistics depot. The private contracts for things like HOA neighborhoods and corporations, e.g., big box store loss prevention and customer data tracking, but those’s are a totally different issue that have nothing to do with the use of public funds and power for mass surveillance.

This feels a lot like "Yeah, but we'll do it anyways until a court makes us stop; because the profit is more than the fine"

but thry're not literally the government and the relevant laws only affect the literal government.

No, there is legal precedent that private companies who perform government services are subject to the same laws.

This is generally not the case.



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