I and many others posted it for reading by other people, many of us for a long time before this AI boom. Even with scrapers at least the eventual target was a human, all good.
This is different, and everyone pretending it is not, is being intentionally ignorant or genuinely ignorant, neither good. I did not give so much to the public internet for the benefit of commercial AI models, simple as that. This breaks the relationship I had with the public internet, and like many others I will change my behaviour online to suit.
Maybe my tune will change once there's a commercial collapse and the only remaining models are open source, free for all to use. But even then it would be begrudgingly, my thoughts parading as some model's abilities doesn't sit right.
> I and many others posted it for reading by other people, many of us for a long time before this AI boom. Even with scrapers at least the eventual target was a human, all good.
This captures perfectly what I was trying to say. Thanks
I dunno man. When I first joined it was unconcieveable that someone could just take everything and build a trivially queryable _conversational_ (that's a big part of it) model around everything I've posted _just like that_. Call me naiive but I would consider it some sort of a social contract that you would not do that. I feel the same way about LLMs being trained on Reddit. I suspect with a large enough dataset these models can infer things about you that you wouldn't know about yourself.
To make another example, even though my reddit history is public (or was until recently because I didn't have a choice) I would still feel uneasy if I realized someone deliberately snooped through all of it. And I would be SUUUUPER uncomfortable if someone did that with my Discord history.
It's not against the rules or anything, I just think it's rude.
By placing a statement upon the public internet, you both implicitly and explicitly consent to that content being consumed by anyone, and by any means. Such is the implicit covenant that access to the public internet imposes upon all participants.
Making the content queryable by a database engine is merely a technical optimisation of the efficiency with which that content may be consumed. The same outcome could have been accomplished by capturing a screenshot of every web page on the internet, or by copying and pasting the said content laboriously by an imaginary army of Mechanical Turks.
A private network may, of course, operate under an entirely different access model and social contract.
It's two clicks to get to that page from this page. Say the wrong thing here and some troll will go through it and find something you said years ago that contradicts something you're saying today. If the mere thought of that bothers you, I don't know what to tell you other than to warn you of the possibility.
I don't know how to get my point across, I guess I'm just thinking emotionally more than logically right now lol. Either way it's not my comments being visible verbatim that irks me but rather the processing part. But I get your point and the "damage" is already done, so /shrug
