>I would love to hear what he thinks a good programming language is, because I can easily pick more holes in any other language than he has.

I have a working theory that the classic programming is basically dying out: https://bykozy.me/blog/llm-s-are-not-smart-rather-programmin... You just cannot write fast and reliable program neither with C++ nor with Rust, because the fundamental model is broken and nobody's really bothered fixing it.