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Out of curiosity, what makes you attached to Touch ID? Face ID is one of my favorite things about my SE to mini upgrade.


I don't want to look at my iPhone every time I need to unlock it, for example, when I am riding my motorbike, the helmet would block my face. This isn't a problem when I use Touch ID because I can use fingerless gloves. Another case is when I need to discreetly check my phone for a moment, like when I am in a meeting or a dinner.

I don't have anything against Face Id, BUT I just don't see why they eliminate the sensor and remove the option.


I used to think the same thing. And ya TouchID is handy sometimes over FaceID. But FaceID overall between the two if one has to choose is superior. If you haven't lived with it daily yet, I wouldn't let that stop you from getting a 13 mini. It helps a lot too with longevity, less to break. You are obviously one of us, those that keep their phones for a very long time. It never needs wiped off, it's incredibly consistent. The durability feature starts to matter when you're using something this many years. Not trying to change your mind, just share a perspective as I do understand where you're coming from for sure. You're not exactly wrong.


Makes sense. Thanks. :)


FaceID works a very few angles with glasses. Won’t work if my glasses have been exposed to rain (it rains like 70% of the year where I live). Struggle to work with face masks and glasses. I have to hold the phone at eye level to unlock it (ie: can’t unlock it discretely). If I’m lying in bed and the phone is lying in front of me, I can just tap to unlock with TouchID, but need to shuffle it around and raise my face for FaceID.

I rolled back to TouchID after a few months, it was intolerable.

I have an impression this gets worse the more correction your glasses have.


Huh. I've got pretty bad eyesight (so I've got noticeable corrective lenses) and I can't say I've noticed any of the issues you mention.

I actually had to disable some FaceID stuff because it was too easy to get to the Home Screen when I wanted to just look at the clock.


Speed of unlock and minimal distraction via one motor memory gesture.


I prefer face id because of speed of unlock via 0 motor memory gestures tbh.


> 0 motor memory gestures

It's worse than motor memory (no thought required) gesture, because it requires a more expensive non-motor-memory physical movement that depends on context of the human. Face ID requires moving and orienting phone close enough for the Face ID sensor to capture a 3D image of face and moving eyes for attention, so it's a function of both phone and human position.

TouchID is context free: grab phone and touch button in fixed position. By the time the phone has turned to facing the user, it is already unlocked.

Touch ID is much faster than Face ID.


I like having a tactile home button.


I love TouchID and can’t stand FaceID. But the home button is terrible. It’s just too hard to be used comfortable, and I end up hang that floating software button instead.


The iPhone hasn’t had a “real” home button since the iPhone 7 in 2016. It’s a static touch pad with haptic feedback.


Haptic feedback is tactile.


Not very. Try touch typing on a touchscreen keyboard with haptic feedback


Haptic and tactile mean related to touch.


I happen to still use an iPhone from 2016 as my daily driver.




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