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> But we have just encountered one of the rare times where something new actually was harmful.

Next let's ban kids from social media.

Or better yet, let's tax social media as a negative externality. Anything with an algorithmic feed, engagement algorithm, commenting/voting/banning, all hooked up to advertising needs to pay to fix the harm it's causing.

They're about as bad as nicotine and lung cancer. They've taken people hostage and turned society against itself.

> I think chatbots and AR glasses are going to supercharge these social problems at a rate much faster than phones and facebook ever could.

Chatbots aren't smart and AR glasses are dorky. They're going to remain niche for quite some time.

iPhone immediately caught on like wild fire. You can tell those other two don't have the same spark. I'm not saying there won't be users, but it's a much smaller population.



I agree but you have to tone down the rhetoric otherwise you won’t persuade anyone who isn’t already convinced.

It’s telling that none of the tech CEOs allow their children to use their wares.


> It’s telling that none of the tech CEOs allow their children to use their wares.

This is way too general a claim to be plausibly true, or verifiable even if somehow it was true. There's a lot of tech CEOs, running companies doing lots of different things in the world of computer technology, with lots of different family situations. They do not all have the same philosophy of how to raise their children, that they have publicly and truthfully talked about. Even if you're just talking about, say, Mark Zuckerberg specifically, who I know has mentioned some things publicly about his approach to raising his relatively-young kids, I don't think he claims that he blanket-disallows his kids from using every Meta product. And if he did, why would he say that publicly? Or maybe he did do that at one point when his kids were younger but then they complained a lot about this parental restriction and eventually he relented without happening to inform the world on a podcast that he's now making a slightly different decision in his private life.

I also don't think that any parent's decision about what kinds of computer technology use to allow or forbid for their children should be primarily based on what tech CEOs do with their own kids (and of course, really, what they heard tech CEOs somewhere without actually being able to verify this unless they happen to be close personal friends of a tech CEO).


Most tech CEOs I know couldn't care less about their children.


> Chatbots [are] going to remain niche for quite some time.

> iPhone immediately caught on like wild fire.

> I'm not saying there won't be users, but it's a much smaller population.

The facts say you're wrong about this.

The adoption rate for the iPhone was slow. There were only 1.4 million iPhones sold in its first year,[1] whereas there were 100 million weekly active ChatGPT users in its first year.[2]

ChatGPT is not niche, and is not a 'much smaller population'. Right now it has 800 million weekly active users. That's how many iPhones were active in 2017. Are we to say that iPhones were a niche in 2017? It's how many smartphones in general were active at the start of 2012. Are we to say that smartphones were a niche in 2012?

[1] https://www.globaldata.com/data-insights/technology--media-a...

[2] https://www.demandsage.com/chatgpt-statistics/

[3] We can go deeper on this data, but these are generally accepted figures, and I have seen no figures that agree with your statements


> The adoption rate for the iPhone was slow. There were only 1.4 million iPhones sold in its first year,[1] whereas there were 100 million weekly active ChatGPT users in its first year.[2]

The ChatGPT number includes people who paid no money. iPhone adoption was incredibly fast for a paid product


It's my fault for lumping tools like ChatGPT into the bin of "chatbots" that people - mostly kids - are sexting and forming intimate relationships with. In my mind, the latter are "chat" apps.

ChatGPT and Claude have incredible utility, whereas Character.ai-type chatbots are much less certain. I can't fathom trying to spend more than a few minutes talking to them since they have so many shortcomings.

I don't consider ChatGPT a chatbot because my inquiries tend to match my usage of Google Search. It's a search tool.


> Next let's ban kids from social media.

We are here in Australia from the 10th December this year.


I'm interested to see where this goes. I don't like how it's likely reducing privacy the internet. But social media is obviously a threat so serious that it might be worth the costs.

I've also been thinking that perhaps social media platforms should start displaying some kind of indicator when a poster is from out of your country. So when foreign troll farms start political posting you can see more clearly they aren't legitimate. I suspect that social media is largely to blame for the insane politics of the world right now.


They didn't have to implement it in a way where everyone has to upload their ID - there are other ways they could have done it. But Australia seems to love being a total surveillance state.


> They didn't have to implement it in a way where everyone has to upload their ID

They didn't and they haven't.

It's more nudge nudge wink wink age restriction theatre than 1984 total surveillance.

The onus is on platforms (Facebook, Youtube, et al) to adhere to the request to restrict minors.

https://www.esafety.gov.au/about-us/industry-regulation/soci...

https://theconversation.com/details-on-how-australias-social...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-30/teen-social-media-ban...


ChatGPT "caught on fire" faster than iPhones.


It absolutely did not. ChatGPT is free to use and most people I know have barely engaged with it beyond a few queries once or twice to try it.

When the iPhone came out, nearly everyone I knew dumped hundreds of dollars to get one (or a droid) within 2 years.


"and most people I know have barely engaged with it beyond a few queries once or twice to try it."

Have you recently spoken with the younger generation still in school?

I doubt you find many there who just "have barely engaged with it". It is just too useful for all the generic school stuff, homework, assignments, etc.


https://futurism.com/openai-use-cheating-homework

Between your comments, and the report above, I suspect you, and most people you know, aren't students.


Agree. The conversation behind "adoption" was totally different as well. I was a young Army private when the first iPhone was announced. Before that I remember the iPod touch and other MP3 players beingthe rage in the gym and what not. I distinctly remember in the gym we were talking about the iPhone, my friend had an iPod touch and we took turns holding it up to our faces like a phone, and sort of saying "weird, but yeah, this would work".

Point being, when smart phones came out it there was anticipation of what it might be, sort of like a game console. ChatGPT et al was sort of sudden, and the use case is pretty one dimensional, and for average people, less exciting. It is basically a work-slop emitter, and _most people I know_ seem to agree with that.


the ipod touch was released after the iphone fyi


“most people I know” argument always wins :)

most people I know spend $500+/month and use ai 8-10/hrs per day


I assumed the OP meant chat agents like Character.ai, not ChatGPT.




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