True or not that the wealthy pay a greater share of their money in taxes, it doesn't matter. The money has to come from somewhere and the middle and lower classes can't afford it. Also the middle class can't pay more and continue buying the super wealthy's goods. We need to spend less and tax more. 1 trillion in interest per year is insane.

... which implies these taxes get actually payed. At least in the same proportions as lower income taxes get payed.

There is no effective taxation when avoidance is easy and risk-free.

They are talking about the final numbers at the end of the day. Effective tax rates.

It’s the same no matter if you want to use effective vs nominal. The numbers change, but relatively speaking they are roughly the same.