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That's not the issue. The issue is that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of french politicians who should be in jail.

I don't disagree with him going to jail: but it's one heck of a corrupt country where they all have their hands in the cookie jar.

Most french politicians who served at the EU, for example, have friends and family as "employees" on their payroll (well, on the EU citizens' payroll). Same at non-EU level: it's called "emplois fictifs" in french ("fictional jobs"). Soooo many stories about politicians at so many local, regional, national and supra-national levels engaging in "emplois fictifs".

So many mayors in France have dirty money on their hands. Where for example they block construction permits then, once joyfully greased with cash, allow the construction permits.

But Sarkozy was right-wing and the EU, and France in particular, is ultra left-wing. So it's good to put a right-wing president in jail.

Once again: I've got nothing against him going to jail. But we're talking about a country were judges are openly leftists. They're not impartial.

It's all rotten and disgusting.

And why do you think all the leftist french mainstream media root for right-wing Sarkozy? Because these media are at the hand of corrupt politicians who think a politician going to jail is a dangerous precedent. They're nearly all corrupt, so they're shitting their pants to see that even a president is sent to jail.

But yup: one politician in jail. Great. Only 9999 more to go. And corrupt judges.



corrupt politicians who think a politician going to jail is a dangerous precedent

There is a reason why administrations don't go after obvious, in-your-face crimes committed by previous administrations/politicians. They all hate each other, but they are also terrified that if they prosecute previous administrations (for legitimate crimes), they'll be the target when someone else is in power (even if they themselves didn't commit any crimes).

I suppose it might be easier to prevent misbehavior by highest officials of the land by having stricter scrutiny, laws etc than prosecuting them after the fact, but who watches the watchdogs? Who watches the judiciary? As an ordinary citizen, it is exhausting to just even follow the news.

And if it is this bad in democracies, imagine how it is like in countries like Russia.


> even if they themselves didn't commit any crimes

Does that still even exist? The problem I see in politics is that everyone has their hand in the cookie jar to some degree.

You don't get into politics unless you already have your hand in there, or are given the option to prove yourself where moving up the ranks involves helping someone getting their hand in there, with the unspoken assumption that they'll return the favor. And of course once you're in and have your hand in there, why rock the boat and waste all that effort?


Does that still even exist?

I don't know. I suppose there is behavior that is illegal and behavior that is unethical. I guess there aren't that many politicians that are ethical, but there may be some (hopefully?) who don't do downright illegal things? Maybe, I dunno.

The fact that collectively we all have such low expectations and such low opinions about our politicians/government says a lot about the sorry state of affairs :(


This is very common in big governments particularly in France: bureaucrats introduce problems, you will then have to beg them and generally provide favors of some kind for its removal. I saw it in universities and organizations.

Lots of bureaucrats everywhere.


You have to start from somewhere


France is ultra left-wing ? Wow, the Overton window must have shifted to the right even more than I thought.

You sound like you actually don’t know much about France. For instance your accusations about left wing media rooting for Sarkozy has no foundation. The judges being biased toward left is groundless as well. Many left wing politicians have been condemned by French justice.


I think if you pay attention to French and German politics, it is hard to conclude that the EU is "ultra left-wing".


> And why do you think all the leftist french mainstream media root for right-wing Sarkozy?

Which are the "leftist french mainstream media" rooting for Sarkozy ?

The "leftist french mainstream media" I can think of would be Libération, Le Monde, Le Nouvel Obs, France Inter...

Do you have a link to articles where any of those are "defending" Sarkozy, cause quite frankly I missed it.




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