I didn’t say that rails doesn’t use websockets. What i meant is that liveview comes with websockets fully integrated into the framework. This doesn’t mean rails can’t use websockets, but liveview has implemented it more seamlessly at the core. I’ve also mentioned that rails and laravel are both great frameworks, but after using phoenix, i felt that liveview offered advantages in terms of performance and implementation. I’ve worked with all three frameworks and chose the one that worked best for my project. Have you had a chance to try phoenix? If not, do try it out then you’ll get what I meant.