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The party refusing any kind of deal are Israel since their goal is annihilation of Palestinians. Hamas were ready from day one for a deal, their goal (contrary to israeli narrative of course) was to negotiate prisoner exchange for the 1000s of Palesitnian prisoners held by israel (including children). This is still their goal along with ceasefire and complete withdrawal from Gaza.


> The party refusing any kind of deal are Israel since their goal is annihilation of Palestinians

First, there is no such thing as a Palestinian - that’s a made up identity to falsely claim the region as their own. Second, there have been five two-state solution offers in the past, that Israel was ready to accept. Leaders on the other side refused. Third, Hamas is not accepting the current deal that is on the table, and is incredibly fair (given the lopsided hostage/prisoner release that favors Hamas). Fourth, Israel had already withdrawn from Gaza - that was the status quo when Hamas got elected and began a decades long campaign of terrorism - remember the literal thousands of rocket attacks on Israel? Fifth, if Israel’s goal is the “annihilation of Palestinians”, why are the 20% of Israel’s population that would identify as such doing so well? Clearly this isn’t their goal, but just misinformation.


> First, there is no such thing as a Palestinian

A quote from the Minutes of the Ninth Session of the League of Nations, 1922:

  Colonel Symes explained that the country was described as "Palestine" by Europeans and as "Falestin" by the Arabs. The Hebrew name for the country was the designation "Land of Israel", and the Government, to meet Jewish wishes, had agreed that the word "Palestine" in Hebrew characters should be followed in all official documents by the initials which stood for that designation.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110628180414/http://domino.un....


Haha. No. Hamas goal with October 7 was exactly this. To provoke an Israeli overreaction in order to derail the diplomatic recognition talks between Israel and the Saudis.

Hamas just underestimated how much it would actually cost. Or maybe they didn’t, who knows.


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Israel just tried to murder the negotiators in Qatar who were supposedly working towards a ceasefire.

Israel is the one opposing a ceasefire.


> the negotiators in Qatar who were supposedly working towards a ceasefire

Supposedly is the key word. Qatar has urged Hamas to accept Trump’s ceasefire terms publicly. But let’s not forget they welcomed and housed Hamas’s leaders, and funded them, for a long time prior to today. Qatar has a history of supporting other terror groups as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_and_state-sponsored_terr...


Israel is a terror group.




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