Israel disputes the proportion of civilians to some extent, but not that tens of thousands are dead. Last year: https://www.voanews.com/a/israel-publishes-new-civilian-deat... "Earlier this month, Israel's government offered its first estimate of the operation's death toll, saying its troops have killed 14,000 terrorists and 16,000 civilians." That's 10x what Hamas killed on Oct 7, and that's a year old estimate from an involved source with motivations to keep that number low.
> Secondly, are you aware that 2 million German citizens were killed in WW2, versus only 70,000 UK citizens?
In both cases, the counts indicate technological / logistical / war outcome differences. They don't automatically infer morality of those deaths, and comparing the era of saturation bombing to that of precision weaponry is pretty desperate of you.
No, we can't. They've historically been pretty accurate. Independent studies come up with similar numbers (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02009-8 ; https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... ; https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...) and a look at the debris left makes it clear many people are dying.
Israel disputes the proportion of civilians to some extent, but not that tens of thousands are dead. Last year: https://www.voanews.com/a/israel-publishes-new-civilian-deat... "Earlier this month, Israel's government offered its first estimate of the operation's death toll, saying its troops have killed 14,000 terrorists and 16,000 civilians." That's 10x what Hamas killed on Oct 7, and that's a year old estimate from an involved source with motivations to keep that number low.
> Secondly, are you aware that 2 million German citizens were killed in WW2, versus only 70,000 UK citizens?
In both cases, the counts indicate technological / logistical / war outcome differences. They don't automatically infer morality of those deaths, and comparing the era of saturation bombing to that of precision weaponry is pretty desperate of you.