>Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans adopted a salute which was very similar, which they attributed to the so-called Roman salute, a gesture that is wrongly thought to have been used in ancient Rome. This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.
In other words, when people decided "fuck that, I don't want to look like a Nazi" they did something different.
There is no plausible deniability; it was a nazi salute.
And Elon has had enough media exposure and training to know how it would be perceived. He knew what he was doing. We know what he was doing. He knows we know what he was doing.
Twitter guy had lost his cred with all his nazi twitter followers (the ones he retweets from time to time when they have spent enough time licking his behind) after the H1B visa kerfuffle. They were all thrilled he was heiling away on the national stage.
The amount of cowardice in US politics is astounding. And I don't mean the republican part, because to be a coward with regards to beliefs you must actually believe something.
You know, I initially didn't watch the video, because there's so much bs that I don't have time to consume all the bs. It seemed plausible to me that people would exaggerate or misrepresent what Musk did, because that's what people do in (current year argument).
But then I watched the video, and it's just flat out a Nazi salute. There's no doubt. He's not "throwing his heart to the audience," he's not accidentally making a cumbersome gesture, he's just Heil Hitlering right in front of everybody.
So I don't know what you mean by "unironically believe this." I don't know what the "mainstream media" says, and I don't really care. I have eyes. I can see what he did.
So tell me this, whom should I believe, you and your complaints about the media, or my own eyes?
And I don't even believe that you earnestly believe it wasn't a Nazi salute. I think you're trolling, and you know perfectly well what it was, because every sentient being with eyes knows. So that's how far apart people can be.
Please note that "you know perfectly well what it was" is considered a personal attack on this site. As much as I agree with you, I think it's best if we keep this place civil, as many others on the internet aren't anymore, sadly.
Let me be clear - I don't necessarily agree with the opinion that it's a personal attack, however dang states that it is [1], so I'm trying my best to make sure those who make good-faith comments don't get unnecessarily banned.
I think 98% of the "plausible deniability" folks know it was a nazi salute; they just dont care because they are happy about the destruction of the federal government.
>Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans adopted a salute which was very similar, which they attributed to the so-called Roman salute, a gesture that is wrongly thought to have been used in ancient Rome. This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.
In other words, when people decided "fuck that, I don't want to look like a Nazi" they did something different.
There is no plausible deniability; it was a nazi salute.