> Have you tried telling them straight up that their behaviour is unacceptable?
Yea, but it isn't effective on anybody that is fooling themselves or that isn't interested in listening to me. I lack the skill of influence. My usual outcome in this situation is that I drop anyone that is unwilling to listen because it isn't healthy for me. I do give people the benefit of the doubt. Both parties need to respect each other - one-sided submission is unpleasant.
The majority of people learn for themselves as they mature and they are easy to communicate with. Your examples fit this.
The problem is the people that never learn or don't care to. I don't know what to do with them.
It's not clear whether you think the problem is them or is you.
They own their problems, and the best you can do is tell them what you think, and maybe encourage them if you see some positive sign. You can also act as a positive role model, but people in that mindset are unable to draw lessons from others.
But if you hang around people who you think are miserable and self-defeating, and you don't want to move on, but you don't like it, maybe the problem is you.
Yea, but it isn't effective on anybody that is fooling themselves or that isn't interested in listening to me. I lack the skill of influence. My usual outcome in this situation is that I drop anyone that is unwilling to listen because it isn't healthy for me. I do give people the benefit of the doubt. Both parties need to respect each other - one-sided submission is unpleasant.
The majority of people learn for themselves as they mature and they are easy to communicate with. Your examples fit this.
The problem is the people that never learn or don't care to. I don't know what to do with them.