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MAGA didn't win with money. The democrats spent far more. They won with a message.


I'm fairly sure this is either untrue or unknowable. If the official "Harris campaign" spent more than the "Trump campaign" that doesn't actually mean much, considering how many other avenues exist to spend money that escape public scrutiny.

Even if you could account for all the dark money, that still leaves you with leveraging soft power - e.g. Musk using X as a de facto propaganda arm of the Republican party, which doesn't show up on any books.


I'm pretty sure it is knowable. The democrats spent far more.

Musk and X propaganda helped. Also Rogan and other podcasters, but look at how much propaganda the democrat side has/had. All the major media outlets. Reddit, etc etc. Plus the power of the federal government in censorship, courts and the like.

Look, I don't really care and don't trust anyone running for office much. I'm just pointing out what a winning platform would look like. MAGA won because they were speaking to things that more people found important. When the Democrats figure this out, they will be in the winning seat again. If they don't, then they will not win.


Wow what brilliant political insight - this place is shocking sometimes.


Thanks. I help when I can.


You could argue a particular person spent 44 billion but its a fuzzy argument. It's hard to tell..


I'm saying that the democrats lost because they keep taking corporate/oligarch money and are at odds with the values of the people who would otherwise support them. They aren't the party that supports the little guy anymore, so they're basically without an argument aside from "not Trump". I don't think you understood my previous post, which was a critique of the democrats, which used to have "the working man"'s back.

Republicans have always been and continue to be pro-elite, pro-oligarchy, and against the economic interests anyone outside the upper class. They still have a better message than the democrats at the moment.


Ah gotcha. I misread and agree completely with what you state. That does appear (to me anyway) exactly what happened.




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