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I have lived 39 years here in New Zealand and have never witnessed or been near a shooting. I'm not saying shootings have never happened in New Zealand, but the idea that these things "happen everywhere" is asinine.


I've lived in the Bay Area for 60 years, and never witnessed or been near a shooting. They do happen more often here, but violence is far lower than you would think from the media and online anecdotes.


San Francisco has nearly 8 times higher population density than Auckland.

Add to that other factors like the size of the CA economy (wealth attracts crime), a lax criminal system, attractive social services (compared to the rest of the US), etc etc. It's an apples to oranges comparison.


We both know it’s none of those things, it’s access to guns


Non-gun crime is a bigger concern in SF than gun-related violence.


This comment thread is about gun violence


It's just a very American-centric sentiment, because here in the states, that's true.




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