i concur. I think a lot of this is just sound business acumen.
Twit-er...X, isnt raking in cash like it used to. Musks changes like reinstating hate speech accounts and the blue check fiasco had a direct negative effect on advertising revenue and accelerated already downward subscriber trends. Leaning out the physical side of the already agile digital side was a good idea im not sure twitters old guard would have considered.
San Francisco has seen a talent exodus after the global pandemic. no senior SRE with 20 years of experience --whos also made to show up to the office five days a week-- is going to entertain San Francisco's traffic, crime, homelessness, or general congestion for even a minute.
fwiw, hiring senior talent in SF works just fine. If you pay at the right pricing tier. SF is a decent city. It could definitely do better, it has issues, but if we all could stop pretending it's a post apocalyptic hellscape, that'd be nice.
Yes, you pay an SF premium. You pay a premium for most major cities, and the worse housing is, the higher the premium. But I'd bet moving to the South Bay isn't happening for that reason. SF pricing has a halo effect on the South Bay, and your savings will be minimal, if any. (I see little differences in South Bay and SF salaries, for larger companies)
What I'd wager precipitated the move is SF rents are stupidly high , and then you combine that with half the twitter offices being empty. If you believe loopt, San Jose office space is ~ half the cost of SF. Half the space, at half again cost - their real estate bill shrinks by 75%. And given that Twitters bill is likely ~$40M-50M/month, that's a good chunk of savings.
South Bay & Peninsula housing is actually more expensive than SF, though you do get a bit more for your money. Compensation is often marginally higher as well, though most companies with offices in both have them in the same salary band.
For senior engineers, I'd say opportunities weigh more than the difference in salary or even in overall package, unless the package correlates with the opportunities. I may complain about commute, but I'd still be happy to join an exciting startup in the city.
The Santana Row neighborhood ("Winchester Orchards") is pretty comparable, at $910/sf though. I was actually thinking of Mountain View & Sunnyvale, which are considered decent places to live in the South Bay but aren't quite as elite as Palo Alto. They are both about $1.2K/sf:
> but if we all could stop pretending it's a post apocalyptic hellscape, that'd be nice.
I’m very much not in the Valley or even the U.S. but I’ve seen a lot of videos and photos of SF streets being littered, about homelessness, drug use, something called bopping. Isn’t this real, or is it far less common than those videos make it out to be? Interested to hear this from people in SF.
There are a few very bad neighborhoods and the videos you are seeing accurately depict them. Most unfortunately, those bad parts are mixed into downtown where most offices are.
As a resident, it’s extremely disheartening and must be fixed. The Tenderloin has been bad for years, but fentanyl has taken it to the next level.
However, most neighborhoods are different. Most are free from encampments and open-air drug use. Many residents just avoid downtown and some aren’t wise to how bad it really is.
“You mentioned that bringing back nazis killed the site but curiously you did not at any point in any way imply that it is the world’s biggest platform… The argument you’re making solely in my head isn’t very consistent!”
I see. It is a response to an adept amalgamation of what was posted and could maybe have been posted but was not posted. This method of mixing real and theoretical posts makes sense when we introduce a dimensionality of posts that includes both observed and observab-
I find the word almost always reflects more poorly on the accuser than the accusee. Just a near meaningless curse word used with very little care or accuracy.
I find posting an old meme reflexively upon seeing the word “nazi” to be kind of odd. It is not clear what being able to ctrl-c ctrl-v an epic dunk accomplishes
I would imagine that people that are not extremists or lefties are comfortable calling e.g. Richard Spencer[0][1] a nazi, or self-proclaimed white nationalist Nick Fuentes[2][3] one.
There is a very small but very vocal subset of posters that would take this opportunity to weigh in on the latter as being mislabeled, though I have not taken up previous suggestions to deeply familiarize myself with his writings in order to disabuse myself of some perceived error in judgment.
I tend to keep scrolling when I see someone use a word in a way that I disagree with. In the case that I do feel compelled to correct someone I certainly don’t see the value in copy/pasting a vague insult about their sanity. That is, to me, a genuinely strange decision to make given so little stimulus.
Nazism is dead. There is no significant nazi organisation on this planet. Yes there are still white nationalists. Yes there are still anti-semites. This was also true before the Nazi party existed. And during its existence! If WWII commander General Patton of the US Army had a twitter account, it would probably have more of the above than both the accounts you linked.
So, I re-iterate. If you're unironically calling people Nazis in 2024, you're either a political extremist, not all there in the head, or completely ignorant of history. Often it seems to be a combination.
I think what we have here is a difference of values. I am not particularly precious about the word because definitions change over time with common usage.
The majority of people would understand, given context clues, what the phrase “the nazis ruining twitter” refers to. To those that were still confused, my examples of neo-nazi white nationalists with sizable followings (for example, the first one, who helped organize the Unite the Right rally[0]) should clear that up entirely. No one, literally no one at all would think that I meant that Herman Göring is retweeting Harambe memes.
The “are the nazis in the room with you?” joke isn’t really as much of an own as you might have thought. Instead of signaling “Get a load of this guy that thinks there’s ghosts in his computer!” you’ve kind of signaled “I would like to take this time to share with you all that, due to my specific and stubborn refusal to understand context clues or acknowledge that words can be used differently over time, whenever I see this particular word I can only envision a guy that thinks there’s ghosts in his computer! My mind can only summon the one image!”
I agree. This conversation began when you saw a word used online in a way that didn’t align with your strict and personal definition of it and exercised your better judgment to insult a stranger on the internet.
Twit-er...X, isnt raking in cash like it used to. Musks changes like reinstating hate speech accounts and the blue check fiasco had a direct negative effect on advertising revenue and accelerated already downward subscriber trends. Leaning out the physical side of the already agile digital side was a good idea im not sure twitters old guard would have considered.
San Francisco has seen a talent exodus after the global pandemic. no senior SRE with 20 years of experience --whos also made to show up to the office five days a week-- is going to entertain San Francisco's traffic, crime, homelessness, or general congestion for even a minute.