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> Do you get the sense that the plastic manufacturers are limiting production in any whatsoever now?

More and more stuff I buy, especially from higher end brands, comes packaged in purely cardboard packaging with no plastic. Not even tape or plastic bits to hold it together. They even brag about this in some of their marketing.

Paper is nice because you can put the packaging in either recycling or compost depending which bin has more space that week.



While I see your point and without defending the lackluster recycling culture in America, filling landfills with paper products is still better than plastic products, no?


Yes this is strictly better. I’m saying it’s a good thing that more things come packaged in cardboard than plastic these days and I’m highlighting that this is a growing trend especially in high-end products because those consumers care more


Could in theory work as carbon sequestration. Not effective one, but still.


The most effective sequestration is to store carbon underground where it can't diffuse. The simplest way to put things underground is as a fluid. Some kind of fluid that's pure carbon. This pretty much just brings us back to pumping oil in reverse.


I guess I just see it as something with the potential to biodegrade within my lifetime as opposed to many many lifetimes in the future. I’m no climate scientist, genuinely curious if that mentality is incorrect or not.


A lot of “paper” is coated or dipped in plastic (like the drinking straws).


Historically it was dipped in wax, and a lot of places like butchers will still use wax paper instead of plastic.


The wax in wax paper is also a petroleum product.


We use bees wax paper and cloth in the house instead of cling film/plastic wrap and baggies. Its easily washable and reuesable, everyone should use it and there would be a lot less plastic waste.


Very cool. How do you replace baggies with the wax paper?


Doesn't have to be. Can be vegetable or bees




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