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There are 3 distinct positions one can take in this situation that all get wrapped up together and cause people to talk past each other.

You can support Israel.

You can support Palestine.

You can support Hamas.

Not wanting Palestinians to die by the hands of Israelis is conflated with Pro-Hamas by Israel supporters.

I categorically don't support Hamas while also being incredibly skeptical of Israel's current actions but I'm also familiar with the various bad faith efforts at peace from both Israel and Palestinians that have bolstered Hamas.

The people that leave a bad taste in my mouth are the ones all in for any if those three groups that fail to see their shortcomings. Luckily I don't think there are that many of those but I do think that the Hamas/Palestine side of that is primarily the young left and the Israel side is primarily older but still, both are a vocal minority.



people tend to simplify things too much.

you can support post zionist voices in the Israel Knesset advocating for reform while still condemning Israel apartheid state and the zionist lobby influence in western countries.

You can support the Palestinian Resistance against the military occupation while still condemning terrorist tactics.


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Your link is dead... but the idea that the "vast majority" of Palestinians support a group that was elected way back in 2004, then immediately dismantled elections violently attacks any dissenters is laughable, Palestinians were bravely publicly protesting hamas (again, a group known for executing dissenters) just 4 months before the attacks, internal support for hamas is not high. https://apnews.com/article/gaza-hamas-demonstration-israel-b...


Link fixed. The source actually adds the nuance you mentioned. I guess it's possible they might oppose the Hamas rule, but also support the graphic violence of Oct 7th.




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