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I agree that Twitter should pay it's own bills. But the causes for that are obvious from my POV:

* Their add platform is truly terrible. Ask anyone who deals in that area to compare it with Meta or Google's and they will laugh.

* They can't ship new products. Since 2008 they have increased the size of tweets from 140 characters to 280 characters, and that is the biggest change. Look how many things Facebook has tried in the same time. Some failed, but lots succeeded.

Also in the history of bad decisions, surely the decision to kill Vine is right up there? Occasionally people still find an old Vine video and share it. What could have been...



That’s not true about new products: since idk, 2018 or so, they’ve been constantly shipping new ML crap to ruin the main feed. This is why I closed my account in 2020. “Person you follow liked…” is the literal worst feature.


> Look how many things Facebook has tried in the same time. Some failed, but lots succeeded.

Like which ones? Not being sarcastic, I just can't think of any off the top of my head.


Some of the things they have launched:

* Facebook Apps (not really a thing anymore. Maybe it still exists)

* Facebook Games (remember Zynga?)

* Facebook Deals (they were taking on GroupOn)

* Messenger (as a separate product. One of the most heavily used products in the world)

* Events (which for many people is the only reason they have an account)

* Facebook Groups (still heavily used)

* Facebook Pages (still heavily used)

* Facebook Video (still heavily used)

* Facebook Marketplace (extremely heavily used in many markets)

* Stories (still heavily used)

* Reels (sort of merged into Videos)

* Facebook Places (big plans, but died)

* Facebook Graph Search (nothing like originally released: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Graph_Search)


Don’t forget the Facebook phone!


because there are none.

(on Facebook core product)

I am leaving out their never really widely launched crypto hype disaster of a product on purpose.


Really? Facebook Events? Groups? Marketplace?

These are pretty major, successful features that drive a lot of use.


Those features drive use but did they also increase profit, given that Facebook successfully enshitified their main product (the news feed)?

I don't disagree with your main point, though: Facebook certainly developed lots of new features, whereas Twitter pretty much stood still.


> Those features drive use but did they also increase profit, given that Facebook successfully enshitified their main product (the news feed)?

I don't have any insight into groups, but I do into Marketplace where yes it absolutely did.

I'd be astonished if Pages didn't have a measurable effect too since they are one of the main ways brands (which is a major source of FB revenue) interfaces with FB.




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