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I lived in the suburbs of a medium sized city. Everything was easily accessible by bike, but of course many people still preferred the convenience of a car. It took about 25 minutes from my apartment to the city center.

My wife grew up in the suburbs of an even smaller city. It took about 10 minutes to reach that city center by bike, but almost everybody drove because the road connecting the suburb to the city center feels very unsafe on a bike.



Two anecdotes, plenty of European cities aren't as fortunate, specially in southern countries.

Many cities are only city in name, and in practice more towns aspiring to be cities, specially in southern and eastern Europe.

Here is one anecdote, Portalegre might be a nice city, as Northen Alentejo capital in Portugal, yet those 20 km on average from the neighbouring villages aren't that nice to do on bycicle specially during Summertime with temperatures up to 45 degrees celsius. And if you're thinking about taking a bus, better save money for a taxi, unless you're willing to spend the whole day in the city, as there is only one bus into each direction connecting the neighbouring villages to the city.


I’ve cited plenty more cities. And could cite more still.

Besides, your statement was an absolute so the GP only needed one of example to disprove you yet gave you two.


Capital sized cities.

There are plenty of cities in Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece, Croatia,... where it doesn't hold.

You know, those that people from the cities you listed love to rent cars for their vacations, and enjoy what many locals can't afford.


How can they rent cars when they don’t have a driving license?

And no, they weren’t all capital sized cities.

I also don’t understand what vacationing has to do with anything when I was talking about backpackers, nomads and expats. Basically the polar opposite of people who vacation.


Many do, even if they don't drive at home.

Plenty, it shows not wanting to endure the actual pain locals have with local transport system, if one exists at all.


> Many do, even if they don't drive at home.

But this conversation is about people who don’t drive. Not people who do.

You’ve warped the discussion so far off it’s original topic that your entire premise here is now just one stupid straw man argument.

To get back on topic: nobody is disputing that there are people out there with driving licenses (well durrr!). It was to explain why some people (ie not all) are content without learning to drive.




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