>This is exactly what a lot of supporters of Desantis would probably say about gender affirmation care for people with gender dysphoria.
And? It's an ongoing debate that even I am unsure about and perhaps maybe they'll be vindicated one day. But conversion therapy is categorically abuse today. And for good reason.
>I would be shocked if you could convince me there is a governor who would always decline to sign bills that ban material from schools.
That's not really how it works. You need to provide evidence of Democrat governors banning books at the state level a la DeSantis and Abbott. I can't prove what they wouldn't do because the situation is theoretical.
I gave examples of bans, the rest is politics, as I said. If you really were opposed to political book bans, which you aren't, you wouldn't be open to all sorts of unspeakable things being included in public schools.
* Gov. Newsom banned remedial classes being taught at community colleges.
- not banned books and I explained the issues with your claim in another comment.
* Conversion Therapy has been banned and attempted to be banned by many states in particular in public schools.
- not about banned books
* Bibles being banned by school districts.
- I found one example of a technical battle in one school district in Texas which seems to be more about the larger message/battle over the written law in Texas. Besides this weird case I see no others. Do you have any sources or examples?
Aside from that one weird case I've found (which isn't a democrat or a governor banning books mind you it's a local matter over technicalities), I've seen no citations or specific claims of any kind.
This law https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&Sessi... bans conversion therapy material in schools by guidance counselors. That state also established a policy for the mandatory sex education curriculum recently. It bans conversion therapy material being taught because it is not evidence based or inclusive.
There's a lot of states that have banned it besides that one. Do I care? no, not particularly. This is the Florida "book ban" law which is actually an "instructional material" ban. https://myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?F... Not a general book ban which would likely be unconstitutional.
The original objection raised here was that the governor is taking powers he doesn't have was it not? Specifics of one state's constitution aside, if a governor of one state can decide what is taught, why can't a governor of another?
As I said, banning material or requiring material is something both parties do or would do.
I also remembered there is a california school district that banned "To Kill a Mockingbird" recently for racism.
> The original objection raised here was that the governor is taking powers he doesn't have was it not?
No one ever said that. This is not a discussion of gubernatorial powers. Just what is right/wrong.
Re: to kill a mocking bird you are mistaken. That was parents complaining and forcing the school to remove it from the curriculum. It is still available for students to check out. Not the governor, not removed from the school. Do I think it’s stupid and shortsighted? Absolutely. But it is not what we are talking about.
Where are these bible bans you were talking about?
Seems you also abandoned your claims about Newsom banning remedial classes given real context.
Frankly it feels like you’re just throwing a bunch of claims at the wall until something sticks, despite still having not proven basically anything you claimed is happening. A lot of “I heard that…” type stuff. The closest you’ve come are out of context, not as you described, or straight up irrelevant.
Either way this has gone on long enough. I’m done. Have a good one.
And? It's an ongoing debate that even I am unsure about and perhaps maybe they'll be vindicated one day. But conversion therapy is categorically abuse today. And for good reason.
>I would be shocked if you could convince me there is a governor who would always decline to sign bills that ban material from schools.
That's not really how it works. You need to provide evidence of Democrat governors banning books at the state level a la DeSantis and Abbott. I can't prove what they wouldn't do because the situation is theoretical.