> You should probably re-read Animal Farm which is notable work from a notable socialist
...about how Leninism and related systems, despite superficial rhetoric borrowed from socialism, were not socialism, and looped back around to be equivalent to the capitalism that socialists oppose. (And, more broadly, about how people in practice could continue to maintain faith in those and other systems in which the nominal ideals of a revolution were utterly betrayed by revolutionary leadership.)
I don’t like repeating myself in the same thread, but it is socialism. That’s how socialism evolves in the real world just like what we call capitalism isn’t a true free market and it has a lot of corporate welfare. If I were to use your same logic with capitalism, I would say “Let’s bring back capitalism because what we have now isn’t capitalism. Instead, it’s ‘chrony capitalism’ since it doesn’t match Adam Smith’s pure ideology“.
It’s a flawed argument that you guys keep parroting. Leninism is another word for late stage socialism.
Your comment also shows that you failed to read my previous comments. Why bother replying if you’re just going to ignore what I wrote?
All you've proven is the exact opposite. The facts and history are on my side. You're just parroting talking points from someone else who didn't study history. I've already destroyed your talking points, which is even more apparent given your reply
...about how Leninism and related systems, despite superficial rhetoric borrowed from socialism, were not socialism, and looped back around to be equivalent to the capitalism that socialists oppose. (And, more broadly, about how people in practice could continue to maintain faith in those and other systems in which the nominal ideals of a revolution were utterly betrayed by revolutionary leadership.)