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For the Europeans on HN: on the East coast of the US, the furthest you can get by train in ~5h is roughly Boston to NYC, or NYC to Washington, DC. Both are roughly equidistant (~220 miles, ~354 kilometers).

One of the perverse things with our passenger rail network is that you can actually take take trains that "only" take 2.5 hours, but: they run nonstop point-to-point, and any subsequent connection you make (e.g. to Richmond, a major city in Virginia) will be on a diesel train that shares trackage with CSX or another major freight line. The end result is that traveling the extra ~90 miles from Washington, DC to Richmond generally takes over 3 hours, when it should really take less than an hour.



~50 million people live along the Boston to DC corridor. That's roughly the population of Spain, and not much less than that of France.


Boston to Philadelphia a closer approximation. The Acela is scheduled for 5h 1m for that trip. I travel between Boston and New York by train frequently, and even the slower regional service takes < 4 hours. Either way, still not a great comparison to Europe.


Sorry, this was confusing wording on my part -- I was trying to say that Boston/NY or NY/DC is consistently under 5 hours, and that just about everything else is over 5 hours, illustrating a gap in our network.

NYC to DC is also consistently around 3.5 hours, even with the slower NE Regional.


Ah, gotcha!


With a modern high-speed rail line, you'd theoretically be able to get from NYC to Chicago in around 4:15, even when accounting for stops along the way.

That's an average of 300 km/h. There are already lines in service elsewhere the world that are that fast.


The fastest service was Wuhan–Guangzhou, which averaged 313 km/h on non-stops, but is not run any more.

Chicago-NYC with stops would probably be 5 hours, which is barely competitive with flying. The intermediate stops would potentially make it viable though.


I would take a 5-hour train from NYC to Chicago over flying, because of the extra comfort and because getting to/from the airport on either end is a hassle.

However, modern high-speed rail lines are capable of 350 km/h top speeds, and there are lines that average 300 km/h, with stops included (e.g., Beijing-Nanjing).


5 hours, from New York Penn station to Chicago Union Station (as opposed to killing an hour to JFK/LGA/EWR and another hour from O'Hare), without having to be an hour early on top of that so the TSA can fondle you, sitting in a normal sized chair, allowed to stand up whenever you want, and complimentary wifi the whole time. Yeah, that's competitive with flying.


With a table in front of you [0] and a cafe/bar a minutes' walk away,[1] it's even better.

0. https://www.seat61.com/images/Germany-ICE-2nd2-large.jpg

1. https://www.seat61.com/images/ice4-train-bar-large.jpg




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