No, I really don't. I was looking at the quote in its totality, not carving out little bits that purport to support my claims.
> In otherwords, they don't believe there is such a thing as "voluntary slavery". That is, if you volunteer for it, it's not slavery. That's a cute word game they are playing just so they don't have to accept the fact that they condone slavery.
No, progressives were the ones who extended slavery to refer to people who needed to take low paying jobs to subsist (which was the default state for most people for all of human history). Outside of progressive contexts, slavery has never meant anything other than forced servitude. These libertarians are using "slavery" correctly (that doesn't imply that indentured servitude is a desirable state of affairs).
> A Libertarian supports the idea a person could sign a contract where they get no pay AND they have to follow all the rules of their employer. IE, Indentured Servitude [1]
They believe that minimum wages lead to more people losing their income altogether and thus starving to death, and that this is a worse state of affairs than taking a low paying job.
> that's the more direct form of slavery.
Indentured servitude isn't slavery, per your own link. You are now the one playing word games. Anyway, it looks like you're going to manipulate semantics, which is the dullest way to debate, so I'm ducking out.
No, I really don't. I was looking at the quote in its totality, not carving out little bits that purport to support my claims.
> In otherwords, they don't believe there is such a thing as "voluntary slavery". That is, if you volunteer for it, it's not slavery. That's a cute word game they are playing just so they don't have to accept the fact that they condone slavery.
No, progressives were the ones who extended slavery to refer to people who needed to take low paying jobs to subsist (which was the default state for most people for all of human history). Outside of progressive contexts, slavery has never meant anything other than forced servitude. These libertarians are using "slavery" correctly (that doesn't imply that indentured servitude is a desirable state of affairs).
> A Libertarian supports the idea a person could sign a contract where they get no pay AND they have to follow all the rules of their employer. IE, Indentured Servitude [1]
They believe that minimum wages lead to more people losing their income altogether and thus starving to death, and that this is a worse state of affairs than taking a low paying job.
> that's the more direct form of slavery.
Indentured servitude isn't slavery, per your own link. You are now the one playing word games. Anyway, it looks like you're going to manipulate semantics, which is the dullest way to debate, so I'm ducking out.