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Ok, update: My phone is an iPhone. I want an iPhone, produced at Apple scale, just produced outside of China.

And yes, there are probably a number of other places I don't want it to be produced, but let us start with the place that literally used Falun Gong practitioners as spare parts and that literally run government sanctioned forced sterilization programs for certain ethnicities (unlike the US where one doctors action caused worldwide news coverage because of the same.)



> I want an iPhone, produced at Apple scale, just produced outside of China.

Apple does not seem to care much about repressions or human rights:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26644216

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25607386


Totally besides the point.

They care about money and I say I'd pay more money for a certified China free iPhone.


> I'd pay more money

> produced at Apple scale

How many people do you think will do the same? The money is the reason why Apple doesn't care.


It's called micro scale lobbying.

I invented the term right now by the way.

I know a few hundred Apple engineers, Google engineers and current and future founders are reading this thread as well as a few thousand prospective iPhone buyers.

I am sowing an idea into all those peoples thoughts.


No it isn’t - Apple makes older iPhones in several places outside China.

The problem is that there is nowhere (yet) that allows them to do it with the latest models at adequate scale and speed because the supply chain and management expertise simply doesn’t exist yet.


No evidence of that in these links.


Did you read the titles? For your convenience:

"Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties (yahoo.com)"

"Apple's Cooperation with Authoritarian Governments (jessesquires.com)"

It clearly shows what I say.


No it doesn’t. In case you haven’t noticed, headlines are not facts or analysis.

These are just opinion pieces, neither of which have any insight into what Apple cares about or does not care about.




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