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I'm sorry, but "we're merely acting as bad as the Chinese government here" does not seem like a very convincing argument.


The US left the moral high ground some time ago. (About 4 years ago)


This line of thinking is absurd.

Where are the US's death and labor camps? Global IP theft apparatus? Religious persecutions? Actual territorial expansion?

Oh, but we have a leader that says mean things. Totally on par with China.


> This line of thinking is absurd.

It seems there is a kind of "conceptualization mode" that different people operate in when evaluating a scenario. If you consider this situation as a binary rather than a spectrum, then the respective behaviours do seem the same. Similarly, the same thing can even happen when two people are both looking from a spectrum-based perspective, but have differing levels of detail (number of included variables) in their spectrum.

If something like this is indeed in play, then it's not surprising how two different people can come to diametrically opposed conclusions, yet both have extremely high certainty that their conclusion is objectively correct...because they are (or at least plausibly can be) both "right", from the specific perspective each person is operating in.


The reasoning you display here, "we're not as bad as China", is exactly what I meant with the "USA has left the moral high ground". There was a time when they aimed to lead by example.



Are you really trying to compare Japanese Internment camps with what is going on in China in present day?

Forced Sterilizations, Death Camps, Labor Camps, Political Persecution, Religious Persecution, and so much worse.

Literally millions die every year in China at the hands of the CCP.

There is no reasonable, sane comparison.


Might be a bit longer ago than that.




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