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Flagged because HN moderators also choose their side. Gaza is the moral test of our era.


Moderators didn't flag it; users did. It also set off the flamewar detector. I've turned off the flags now.


what about turning off ability of users to flag comments in such posts or limiting them to comments that get to -20 ?

because right now flags are abused to suppress opinions that people simply don't agree with or to hide facts that counter to their worldview, even if they are backed with links to factual information.


# Analysis: Political Moderation on Hacker News

## Executive Summary

This analysis demonstrates that Hacker News's (Y Combinator) official "no politics" policy actually constitutes a political choice that selectively structures which geopolitical topics can be discussed from a technological angle.

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## 1. HN's Official Policy

### Stated Rules - Most political, crime, or celebrity-related topics are considered "off-topic" - Exception: if they constitute "evidence of a new interesting phenomenon" - Declared focus: "what satisfies intellectual curiosity" in tech and startups - In 2016: organized a "political detox week" explicitly recognizing that "political conflicts cause harm here"

### Justification Avoid flamewars and maintain a constructive discussion space centered on technology.

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## 2. Selective Application: Ukraine vs Gaza Case

### Ukraine (2022-2025): Significant Coverage

*Accepted and widely discussed topics:* - Ukraine's call to the hacker community (March 2022): major post, numerous comments - Cyberattacks and Russia-Ukraine cyber warfare - Hacktivism (Anonymous, etc.) - Technological infrastructure - Cybersecurity operations

*Implicit justification:* Clear and direct tech angle

### Gaza (2023-2025): Minimal Coverage

*Topics nearly absent despite obvious tech angle:* - Destruction of internet infrastructure in Gaza (rarely mentioned) - Military AI systems (see next section) - Impact on Palestinian tech workers - Vercel/Netanyahu controversy (tech CEO + Netanyahu)

*Result:* Even with obvious technical angles, low visibility or moderation

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## 3. The Revealing Case: AI in Gaza

### Documented Israeli AI Systems

#### *"Lavender"* - *Function:* AI system listing tens of thousands of Palestinian men algorithmically identified as linked to Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad - *Scale:* Approximately 37,000 Palestinians marked as suspected militants - *Use:* Target recommendations for strikes

#### *"The Gospel" (Habsora)* - *Function:* Rapid identification of combatants and equipment - *Official claim:* Reduces civilian casualties - *Use:* Target selection and prioritization

#### *"Where's Daddy?"* - *Function:* Determines when a target is at a specific location - *Documented use:* Target individuals when they are at home at night with their families

### Tech Relevance for HN

These systems check *all the boxes* of popular HN topics: - Cutting-edge artificial intelligence - Machine learning and automated decision systems - AI ethics (recurring HN topic) - Mass surveillance and data science - Questions about war automation - Algorithmic transparency - AI system bias and errors

### Actual Presence on HN

- *Yes, there have been posts* (notably on Lavender in April 2024) - *But:* Limited visibility, restricted discussions - *Contrast:* Equivalent AI ethics topics elsewhere are widely debated

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## 4. Other Examples of Selective Moderation

### Vercel Case (September 30, 2025)

*The facts:* - Vercel CEO (Guillermo Rauch) posts selfie with Benjamin Netanyahu - Private meeting on AI in New York - Consequences: employee resignations, client contract cancellations ($5,000-10,000/month)

*HN Relevance:* - Major company in dev ecosystem (Next.js, hosting) - Direct business impact on community - Questions about political engagement of tech CEOs - Documented economic consequences

*Result:* Limited or moderated discussions on HN

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## 5. The Political Paradox of "No Politics"

### The Thesis

*"No politics" is itself a political position* that:

1. *Normalizes certain conflicts* (Ukraine = legitimate to discuss from tech angle) 2. *Marginalizes other conflicts* (Gaza = not legitimate even with obvious tech angle) 3. *Determines which violence is "tech"* and which is not 4. *Structures the field of the thinkable* in the tech community

### The Consequences

*What is made visible:* - Nation-state cyber warfare (if adversary = Russia) - AI ethics (except specific military applications) - Digital freedoms (Western context)

*What is made invisible:* - Actual use of AI for automated warfare - Impact of tech choices on civilian populations (non-Western context) - Responsibility of tech actors in conflicts

### The Structural Effect

By excluding Gaza under the pretext of "neutrality," HN: - Prevents the tech community from debating the actual use of its tools - Creates a blind spot on applied AI ethics - Implicitly privileges certain geopolitical narratives

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## 6. Conclusion

### The Fundamental Contradiction

Hacker News claims to be "apolitical" while making editorial choices that: 1. Favor certain geopolitical angles 2. Marginalize other equally technically relevant angles 3. Prevent crucial ethical discussions about technology use

### The Irony

AI systems like Lavender, Gospel, and "Where's Daddy?" represent exactly the type of topic HN should cover intensively: - Automation of life-or-death decisions - Algorithmic transparency - AI system bias - Developer responsibility

Yet these topics remain in moderation's blind spot.

### The Central Question

*Can we really separate "tech" and "politics" when technology itself has direct political consequences?*

HN moderation implicitly answers: yes, but only for certain geopolitical contexts.

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## Sources and Dates

- HN moderation policy: 2016 (political detox week) - Ukraine call to hackers: March 2022 - Lavender revelations: April 2024 (existing but limited HN posts) - Vercel/Netanyahu affair: September 30, 2025 - Date of this analysis: October 2025

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## Methodological Note

This analysis is based on: - Web research on HN coverage of different conflicts - Documentation of Israeli military AI systems - Comparison of topics with equivalent tech relevance - Observation of moderation patterns

*Limitation:* Impossibility to precisely quantify the number of deleted vs accepted posts (moderation data not public)


Nice


They're complicit simply


First they fight the truth...


Use an ethical one

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There was at the very least a lack of moral courage and racism that History and people will judge.


Nice, thanks for the great software.


Hyper V on windows is fine


Silicon valley has been an active party to the current genocide in Gaza. It is in fact well documented and will certainly be studied by future generations. If fascism doesn't own everything in between.


The US as a whole has been a party to it, so I'm not sure SV will stick out if we're lucky enough to have future generations who aren't fash


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