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opinionated versus unopinionated is a tradeoff. Things that boast about how unopinionated they are often require a lot of hand holding or manual config. I think there's a big audience of people that have non-Appleware that want an OS that is not Windows, but don't actually care to customize it.

this argument is also broadly true about the quality and correctness of posts on any vote-based discussion board

> Why is LMArena so easy to game? The answer is structural. > The system is fully open to the Internet. LMArena is built on unpaid labor from uncontrolled volunteers.

also all user's votes count equally, bu not all users have equal knowledge.


As long as users are better than 50% accurate, it shouldn't matter if they're experts or not. That being said, it's difficult to measure user accuracy in this case without running into circular reasoning.


> I don't know how this doesn't give pause to the ChatGPT team

a large pile of money

> What would be the cost for OpenAI to just stop these kinds of very long conversations

the aforementioned large pile of money


way too many people in this thread are taking this project seriously

I switched from Android to iOS like five or six years ago and still think about this almost every day, how much I miss the Android keyboard because the iOS keyboard is so, so, so terrible. Years later I still find it a frustrating, type-inducing mess.


You can always switch back.


they want more people to see it so they removed it from YouTube?


Outrage and clickbait has more than one form and it works surprisingly well on masses, part of orange mans success story. Just look at us discussing it, it wouldn't happen with (much more costly) normal MCD ad.


It is hard to buy this type of mass coverage along with:

"Wow McDonald's they really have a moral compass and listen to the people!"


If I was cynical marketer I would say make a couple of copies. And then pull it from your channel. Then spread those on social media.


If I was a cynical troll I would generate something ghastly, spread it on social media, and claim it was from McDonalds.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1184701899747516


they probably understand it’s impossible (or very hard) to fully delete viral content and that it’d get re-shared

PLUS they double dip as they get extra search traffic for their brand from people trying to find the video

the forbidden fruit is more enticing


I've encountered far too many people who actively seek out ads or look forward to them, people I usually respect, its baffling.


> This is the culture that replaced hacker culture.

Breathless hustlecore tech industry culture is a place where finance bros have turned programmers into dogs that brag to one another about what a good dog they are. We should reject at every turn the idea that such a culture represents the totality of programming. Programming is so much more than that.


The problem is that your claim is just untrue in two major ways.

Chicago is ranked 22nd for murder and 92nd in the country in violent crime overall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

The obsession with Chicago's murder rate and not the murder rate of cities like St Louis, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Indianapolis, or Little Rock is a political constructon of a right wing apparatus still hell-bent on punishing Chicago for having produced Obama.

That murder rate is gang related and extremely localized, and to boot, people in Chicago DO care about it; here are the top results for searching for "Chicago groups against gang violence" in duckduckgo:

https://thetriibe.com/2024/07/13-black-led-organizations-tha...

https://www.buildchicago.org/our-programs/intervention-and-c...

https://togetherchicago.com/violence-reduction/

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/community-safety/home/...

https://www.chicagocred.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/2024-...

It is just broadly untrue that nobody cares about it. This point is extremely easy to debunk if you have any desire to debunk it, but you obviously have no interest in that.

And besides, there's an ocean of a difference between interpersonal gang on gang violence and the government sending secret police to put people into concentration camps and deport them to countries where they have no affiliation based on racial profiling.


This submission is flagged too. Who is flagging these, and why?


It's very clearly against the guidelines, that's why

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.


I think there comes a point where the situation is so serious normal guidelines, intended for normal times, no longer apply.


It's still off-topic here at hn. The community is very international, similar things happen in dozens of other countries too. The front page would be full of politics, if those kind of articles wouldn't be flagged.

There are a lot of other platforms, that are open for any topic, including politics. Reddit is probably the most similar one to hn.


USA is not like other countries.

It is the most powerful country in the world, the strongest military power in the world by far, a global nuclear power, and the basis of European military security and peace - at a time of Russian military expansionism.

This is not the same as Haiti having problems.


There’s plenty of other forums and social media where such discussions happen. Hacker News does not want to be that place


Can you explain? I haven’t been watching TV news, but I haven’t seen this being broadly covered elsewhere.

You’re saying this is trivial and uninteresting? Or just everything relating to the US government is “politics” and we can’t talk about it? Because I think the guideline is meant to be about the former.


I would certainly call secret police running rampant in a US city an 'interesting new phenomenon'.


Others would say this is exactly what they voted for. Unfortunately it's all about perspective, and after a decade of passively consuming hn, it's obvious where the sites interest lies in terms of moderating content.


Let them say it.


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