1. The US also had information dense fliers / magazines / newspapers back in the day. The point is that the US moved away (at least in web design), while Japan didn't
2. Hard to comment on "competence", though I guess I'd like to see a minimalist redesign of a japanese website and see a survey on which one Japanese people prefer
3. Hacker News is extremely niche. And as much as HN people hate Reddit's new modern design, Reddit has orders of magnitude more users than HN. I would bet the vast majority of people prefer the UI of Reddit over HN
I used to think you could just use a warning that forces the user to follow specific instructions. But the author says this "impossible to ignore" warnings:
> It causes us to concentrate on the unhabitual-task at hand and not on whether we want to be throwing away our work
And in fact, I learned this the hard way. One time, while in a rush to meet up with some friends, I tried to sign out of a mobile app. I went to settings and scanned for the logout button, saw some red text, and clicked it. There was a warning, which I quickly clicked through. Then there was a dialog asking me to enter my password to confirm. I thought that was strange, but just then I got a notification that my friends were outside, and I quickly tapped the input box, auto-filled from my password manager, and headed out the door. Later on, I learned that I deleted my account.
I was very lucky that this happened to be an account for a service that I self host and backup regularly. I restored from backup and got my account back. But I shudder to think what would happen if it were my Google or iCloud account.
Honestly I don't know what the app developers could have done differently here. Maybe not put the sign out button next to the delete account button. But it goes to show that impossible-to-ignore warnings are totally possible to ignore
That is true. I guess I missed that we were comparing the operating systems completely across device categories. However, half of what I said still applies since I explicitly mentioned Safari.
> It's impossible in general to be certain of causality for humans too, all we see are correlations in data and we invent causal theories that explain those correlations
I think I'd hate this. Every time you switch tabs, the order would change. This ruins the spatial organization I have in my mind. When doing research and opening tons of tabs, I have a general idea of where each tab is, letting me jump between pages quickly, even faster than using tab search.
There's a reason why when you zoom out to see all your windows on Windows (using win+tab key), Mac OSX (using mission control), or Linux, the order of the windows generally stays the same.
I want both. I want a stable ordering, which is roughly the order that I opened the tabs. And I want a recency ordering, to be able to quickly switch between the most recent handful of tabs I'm working with.
Fortunately, I have exactly that already. The native tab bar gives the stable ordering, except I ignore that because I'm a tab hoarder and only look at the Tree Style Tabs sidebar. Ctrl-Tab gives the recency ordering.
I certainly have complaints about how TST isn't able to provide all of the native functionality (eg the Send Tab To Device menu is empty, and the stupid native tab bar is still visible without a userChrome.css hack). But in terms of ordering, Firefox already gives me the two different orders I care about in a form that works for me.
1. The US also had information dense fliers / magazines / newspapers back in the day. The point is that the US moved away (at least in web design), while Japan didn't
2. Hard to comment on "competence", though I guess I'd like to see a minimalist redesign of a japanese website and see a survey on which one Japanese people prefer
3. Hacker News is extremely niche. And as much as HN people hate Reddit's new modern design, Reddit has orders of magnitude more users than HN. I would bet the vast majority of people prefer the UI of Reddit over HN