For me that’s a FU moment that reminds me ‘TF am I doing here?’ I genuinely see this resource as a censoring plus advertising (both for YC, obviously) platform, where there are generic things, but also things someone doesn’t want you to read or know. The titles are constantly being changed to gibberish like right here, the adequate comments or posts are being dead, yet the absolutely irrelevant or offensive things, can stay not touched. Etc.
The closest analogy would be Sketch for macOS, which Figma simply copied at first, and then mostly replaced. I would love to see open source Sketch for open source systems.
From the user perspective Figma is great, and I might say it’s even better. However, all that came from throwing more money into the problem, I believe. Figma just won because they invested unlimited money into this, while Sketch might be self-funding, if I’m correct here. To me this is rather ‘money is a very nice asset to have’ kind of thing.
Very different strategies. Sketch has been self-funding and sustainable from day 1. They have had 20m funding recently, but a fraction of Figma's 749m.
Figma lost over 1bn in Q3 on revenues of 274m. Share price is down 70% from IPO 3 months ago.
It's also clear from Figma's latest product releases - a grab bag of unfinished AI tools and a laughably shoddy website builder - that their primary audience is investors and not end users. I don't think the market of product designers is large enough to support their valuation and have any hope of making a decent return unless they diversify rapidly into other areas and try to become the next Adobe. Meanwhile Canva and more AI native tools are busy biting at their heels.
Speaking as a daily user, I hope they stay around long-term and don't enshittify themselves too much. But I'm not optimistic.
Figma has set an expectation for designers that their projects support multi-user editing by default and are available to clients, teammates and stakeholders without having to install anything. Its hard to go against that kind of productivity in any org.
Sketch copied Fireworks, which Adobe abandoned after buying out Macromedia. I knew XD would fail, which is funny because Adobe had the best UI tool but didn’t know what to do with it.
They still are really clueless, Animate has had hardly any updates in 13yrs, yet other animation tools offer a lot of innovative features.
As a pro user of Flash (pre-Adobe) I don’t even surprised Animate is dead. ‘Why bother renaming it?’ was my initial thought back then. I was very good at the instrument, but the instrument was so bad (imo it got even worse when Adobe bought Macromedia), that I was among those who expected the inevitable death of the instrument. I’m happily using open source instruments these days, and while not everything is as easy as it was with the Flash (here I mean rather the web, not animation as a whole), the ability to work comfortably and pick my instruments as much as I like, it makes all the difference in the world.
So, Java instead of wasm, but open source. While LogSeq is an open source copycat (not really) of Obsidian, I simply can’t stand it. I have tried Penpot a couple of years back, so cannot say anything about it, with the exception that I noticed it’s Clojure. Would love to learn more if someone can comment on that. I guess I’m biased against Java, but I’m not experienced with it, so I may be very wrong on that one. Of course having an open-source Figma around feels empowering, so much it is ingrained into the current dev process.
Penpot is also implemented in Clojure/ClojureScript. ClojureScript is a Clojure Dialect which compiles down to JavaScript. So there is no Java involved on the frontend :)
Perhaps my bad. I just don’t know Clojure at all, and honestly it might be the first time I’m seeing it, hence the mistake. My quick search prior to my posting returned this:
>Clojure is a dynamic and functional dialect of the programming language Lisp on the Java platform.
So I thought this is built on Java, or like that. I’d love if someone could explain it in simple terms, as I’d love to drop the ‘Java = bad’ attitude. It’s just that my prior experience taught me to stay away from Java.
There are a few things to unpack here. Clojure is a lisp hosted on the Java virtual machine (JVM). Subsequently, someone created Clojurescript which is an implementation (of the vast majority of) Clojure that compiles to JavaScript. The majority of Clojure code can run on either.
“Java = bad” is also something that you should probably drop. The JVM in particular is a very robust host and there’s a large ecosystem for it. Java the language has also improved over the years, but the JVM is great (and has a large market share as a result).
Travel to high trust societies if you don't get what I mean.
Things would be so much easier if we could expect human decency and ethics, even if there is no law against it, because it goes against our values as humans.
If there is a limit then it isn't unlimited. That's what the word unlimited means.
Either it is unlimited or it is not. If you call something unlimited then there should not be a limit. You cant abuse it, it's unlimited. There is no limit, so you can never go beyond the limit which means you can never abuse it.
That's what unlimited means. If you mean something else then use a different word.
It absolutely is a lie, but you might live in a society where constant lying has been normalized. Personally, I believe that society would be better off if companies were held to the letter of their words.
Because that’s not a lie; under special circumstances, it can be true.
For example, consider a restaurant that offers free rice refills because Asian people love eating rice to fill up. An employee working overtime who really needs it can get as many refills as they want.
Of course, this system falls apart if everyone starts doing it, as the restaurant would need to bake that cost into the price to sustain the business.
But my point is: you can have nice things in society, or you can have a dystopia where people take advantage of each other at every single opportunity.
A dystopia is where people lie about free rice bowls to get people in the door but can't deliver. That's not nice things its taking advantage of a lie and blaming people who take up the offer.
Yes because you build it with trust, I trust you to not ruin this things so everyone can enjoy it
I can understand where you coming from because when I watch YT videos about people that exploit the loophole or game the system, people literally praise them for "beating the game" and this is happen mostly with US where everyone is materialistic
but my counter argument is game theory, where everyone can cooperate for betterment of your environment
In my experience the SaaS unlimited abusers often aren’t even trying to do capitalism things. They’re just abusing the systems for the thrill of it.
They go on Reddit and brag and compete about doing useless things to store files on these services, like a competition. They’re bragging on HN about GitHub tools that force files into a non-file service and have rate limiters tuned to upload right at the server’s rate limit.
It’s not capitalism, it’s people thinking they’re winning points against capitalism by abusing a corporation. Even if that corporation is a small startup trying to offer a product on a small budget.
It might have become socially acceptable to lie when everyone else is, but it is still a lie. Back in my days, you at least had to put an asterisk behind such outrageous claims.
It works for me, and I see little difference with AnyDesk I used before. However, I’m not a frequent user, just a very occasional one to troubleshoot some of elderly friends, parents, etc. I’d love to have my own relay for it, but I never managed to find my time to do that.
I’m a pro user with over two decades of experience, I don’t use Gnome all the time (I prefer Sway these days), but I’m all-in for having a nice DE that would embrace regular people with its simplicity. IMO Gnome does that very well. Yet, I am, as a pro-user can use that almost as good as I use my sway desktop. At home, our shared guest room computer runs default Fedora, and I don’t feel any limitations with it (it has almost none of my configs), and can do most of my work when I’m up to it. The only real difference is when I want to spend like a whole day working with it. An hour or two, no real difference.
Saying that, why won’t you just use the DE targeted at you, as a pro user? With Gnome, I rather afraid they might mess the simplicity at some point and start doing features features features for the sake of them. See KDE Plasma with their settings. I used it since KDE2, and while I rather like it, I am still getting lost in all the bells and whistles. They are too many, and I’ve been around for a really long time.
Then you want something that directly copies Windows. Gnome doesn't do that; it very much does its own thing, which confuses regular people who typically just want an unenshittified Windows.
I don’t agree you have to copy Windows. I agree it’s nice to copy it to lure those who touched no other system and know only Windows. But actually, it’s good to have just simple and usable interface, and people would learn it no problem. There are not many things to learn after all. Gnome does that. Also, it’s very good as a simple macOS replacement. Even simpler than macOS itself. And when I install Gnome, I advert it as ‘very similar to macOS’ (good) ‘but without need to buy their expensive hardware’ (also good). And sometimes I say it’s simpler too (also good). Yes, there are situations when I’d like to have a 1-to-1 (visually) for cases when I want people to not notice they are using not Windows. But actually having something with just a simple interface is more valuable. For a Windows copycat, I use KDE, as it’s somewhat similar, more or so. I know there are ‘more Windows-like shells’ but I just don’t like them personally. Other systems, actually change a lot, including Windows itself. So that’s not an issue in my opinion.
Commenting on the internet points (this article is having), I realised I was reading most of the popular things here for some time, months, and it was such a huge and careless waste of my time…
So I’m not even surprised it’s having so many internet points. As if they were the sign of quality, then the opposite. Bored not very smart people thinking the more useless junk they consume, the better off they’ll become. Doesn’t work that way.
And in my option is finally good enough for me to switch from macOS and to recommend Gnome to others. Not everyone likes that Gnome 2 (wasn’t bad, I must admit, but I don’t like it) and especially Gnome 3 was. I quite enjoy modern Gnome, and whilst there are some minor inconveniences I’d prefer being different, I can live with that for the sake of overall simplicity.
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