If the vast majority of people recognized ads and skipped them as more technically minded people do, they'd either not do that or step up a notch and make them even harder to spot. The reality is that these dark patterns do work for a large part of the users. We're the lucky few who can stay away though it is taxing and tiring.
Backwards compatibility. Apparently there are still some people stuck on IE11. It's nice that jQuery still supports those users and the products that they are still running.
> We also dropped support for other very old browsers, including Edge Legacy, iOS versions earlier than the last 3, Firefox versions earlier than the last 2 (aside from Firefox ESR), and Android Browser.
Safari from iOS 16, released in 2022, is more modern in every conceivable way than MSIE 11. I'd also bet there are more people stuck with iOS 16- than those who can only use IE 11, except maybe at companies with horrid IT departments, in which case I kind of see this as enabling them to continue to suck.
I'd vote to rip the bandaid off. MSIE is dead tech, deader than some of the other browsers they're deprecating. Let it fade into ignomony as soon as possible.
“Support” here probably means “we’re testing jQuery for compatibility on those web browsers” - likely Safari from iOS 16 still runs this version of jQuery just fine. However, running automated test suites or support bugfixing for those clients is a lot harder than spinning up some Microsoft-provided VM with IE11 on it.
There are a lot of intranet web applications that require IE, and IE is still in support by Microsoft. Even on Windows 11 Edge still has IE Mode for that reason. IPhones stuck on older iOS version by definition aren’t supported by Apple anymore.
> There are likely to be no devices running iOS 16
My iPhone X is stuck on iOS 16 with no way to upgrade.
However, the phone is still working well. Despite being in daily use for 8 years it still has 81% battery capacity, has never been dropped, has a great OLED screen, can record 4K@60 video. It is far more responsive than a brand new 2025 $200 Android phone from e.g. Xiaomi. It still gets security patches from Apple. The only real shortcoming compared to a modern iPhone is the low light camera performance. That and some app developers don't support iOS 16 anymore, so e.g. I can't use the ChatGPT app and have to use it via the browser, but the Gemini app works fine.
I visited a distillery in 2020. Their machines were managed by HP laptops running Windows XP. Those machines and those laptops and that Windows XP are probably still there with their old IE browser.
They will probably be there for as long as the capacitors last, but the critical thing is that they are almost certainly running some Win32 industrial process software with no need for web browsers or for that matter even Internet connectivity. In fact I hope they’re not on wifi given the state of legacy WinXP security!
There are some really retrograde government and bigcorps, running ten year old infrastructure. And if that is your customer-base? You do it. Plus I worked on a consumer launch site for something you might remember, and we got the late requirement for IE7 support, because that's what the executives in Japan had. No customers cared, but yeah it worked in IE7.
Oh, certainly, corporations run ten-year-old software. But for the record, IE 11 turns 13 this year [1]. Which makes it somewhat more surprising to me.
My reading is that they’ll support Edge’s IE 11 compatibility mode until then, but that IE 11 is already EOLed except for a couple of extremely niche enterprise versions.
I think anything still using ActiveX like stuff or "native" things. Sure, it should all be dead and gone, but some might not be and there is no path forward with any of that AFAIK.
Surely by this point someone has written a 0-day for MSIE 11 which gets root and silently installs an Internet Explorer skinned Chromium. If not, someone should get onto that. —Signed, everyone
Advertisers are salivating at paying users but paying users really don't want any advertising in their product because they're paying not to have any advertising. That does not mean somebody will not cave in and shove advertising in regardless.
Just force an AI label on it and that's that. Whoever wants to listen to it at least don't get tricked into thinking it has to do with a real person behind it. Some people don't care, others do. Right now when I'm tricked into listening to something AI made I feel deceived for wasting time on it though I can still tell realize it's AI. If it wasn't for this deception part Im okay with it being out there, simply labeled AI if it's AI generated.
Supposedly he isn't trying to bring back the monarchy, which the Iranians probably wouldn't easily accept, he wants to collect enough support to bring the current government. But in all honesty, I think even a monarchy would be better than the current regime and and its Ayatolah.
Cloudflare would lose a lot more than 15M if they left, so this makes no financial sense. They just feel backed up by the current administration and proceeded to bluff. I'd call their bluff. If they leave some European/Italian company will step up to the plate and fill that void which is probably for the better for Italy and Europe.
Imagine that Anthropic, or whatever company du jour at some point, starts charging a quarter of your income. Maybe even a third and you have no real alternatives because there is no open source alternative.
What feels like opium right now won’t stay that way by accident. The dealers know exactly how to weave it into your life, how to make it indispensable, whether you'll truly need it or not. And yet I'm a user myself and I know all that.
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