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If the CEO of the company of a foreign nation threatens a country, they country needs to inspect.

Jeff Dean achieved a Weismann score of 42.

Happy new year, HN.

The picture of Tesla across internet is so polarizing. X and YouTube is full of Tesla is the future vibe. Electrek and HN is calling it a complete scam. I am sure it's in the middle, but I can't find a balanced opinion anywhere.

But I have seen Electrek being too negative about Tesla always. And never reporting anything positive as such.


In many parts of the world, you can walk into a Tesla store and tell them you're not interested in purchasing but would like to try it anyway. More likely than not, they will give you a free test drive. You'll be able to decide for yourself whether it's the future or a scam.

> X and YouTube is full of Tesla is the future vibe.

X is owned by Musk and has their algorithm tuned to boost his posts. What makes you think he also isn't artificially boosting Tesla is the future vibe? X is a pure propaganda spigot right now.


research what's in the product if you're interested in buying, and then take your risk as a consumer as with any new product one buys. Or research into the company if you want to buy shares.

Elektrek was one of the biggest Tesla cheerleaders until 2023 or so. Founder promoting neonazi and fascist ideas kinda made them sour on the brand, can you blame them?

I think that's probably the main reason but also Fred Lambert "earned" a free roadster through referrals gassing up Elon and Tesla and as always with Elons promises it has not materialized.

He had numerous problems with his early edition Model 3 in the Canadian winter and when complaining about it got into a spat with Musk over it on Twitter. Afterwards all 'access' to Tesla was forever lost I guess. The roadster fiasco came later I think. Roadsters are reserved for friends of Elon only regardless of what referrals they got. THink there is some fine print to disqualify people after the fact. Rich Rebuilds lost his roadster for much more benign things. (Reverse engineering Tesla stuff)

Exactly what "neonazi" and "fascist" ideas has he been promoting?

I mean, not that it matters. Yes, you can "blame them", because if you're writing articles based on how you feel about the subject and not the facts, you're not a journalist or a news-writer, you're a propagandist.


I didn't get what he's exactly mad about.


reddit is a whole different beast. It does not have a sense of humor, rather it is a biased cesspool of partisanship.


You may have thought this is an objective observation.

For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

Also, I find Reddit to be super funny. Just yesterday someone posted a photo of their brain MRI showing a tumor the size of a tennis ball and everyone, including the OP were having a great time.


> For anyone over the age of 16 this comment is a loud expression of your political views.

I'm curious as to what you think those political views are, because I strongly agree with what sidcool wrote (even if they didn't mean it the way I interpreted it) and I disagree with you.

I think that Reddit "is a biased cesspool of partisanship", but very much in both directions. Many subreddits are so wholly hard right or hard left that I think they're almost caricatures of themselves. And even for subreddits without a hard political bent, they are often the very definition of an echo chamber - they are great places to go where you want everyone to agree with you and you can see people who disagree with you get downvoted to oblivion. And, importantly, this is literally by design based on how subreddits are created and moderated.

I have rarely (not never, but rarely) made a comment that took a somewhat nuanced opinion where I wasn't heavily downvoted. And, contrarily, I have made similar comments on HN where, if I wasn't particularly upvoted, I received what felt like fair dialogue and back-and-forth with other commenters.

All that said, I still use Reddit frequently and find it frequently interesting, sometimes informative, and often pretty hilarious.


You really don’t know adherents of which political stance are constantly complaining about “lack of a sense of humor”? Or who has been complaining about the “tech bias”? I am glad if you were somehow not exposed. I don’t find it partisan. I come across a lot of criticism of Democrats. And the current administration. Also, if you’re claiming subreddits are partisan in the way mods want it to be, we can’t conclude Reddit as a whole is partisan, can we?

Edit:

The sibling comment offers a more concise explanation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46329213


I sleep better at night thinking it is just a battleground of astroturfing bots fighting each other (at least on the main pages).

Everything from massive Russian state-actor bot farms testing newly trained LLMs popping out AI-generated meme formats before deploying domestically unknowingly getting into arguments with Israeli bot farms trying to raise support for some new movie series that will enable them to raise money for their next missile strike competing for eyeballs/attention from some uni student in a dorm room paying mid-sized black market companies in India to post comments telling you that cast-iron pans are too hard to clean so you should buy the non-sticks you saw on instagram (which are just marketing dropshippers in the USA selling the QA rejected pans from established brands).

The online world is a wild place.


Hacker News is Reddit with a nuclear downvote button and tone policing.

It's not that much better in terms of "dead internet," the bots are just more eloquent. In some ways the HN flavor of gamified engagement actively encourages worse outcomes than Reddit.


(In case you didn't realize it, you're replying to one of the OG reddit admins.)


Hello fellow OG :)


I joined from the Webmonkey sidebar in like 2008.

Lived in San Francisco for a while. Liked seeing you pop up in that sub, even after you retired.


"When we do it, it's called sense of humor. When they do it, it's bias and partisanship."


Congrats on launching. Seems very interesting.


Fred Lambert's blogs about Tesla are always critical and have been proven wrong many times. I would take it with a pinch of salt.


Can you elaborate? I read electrek pretty closely and if anything most of the time Tesla/Elon deny things only for it to be proven true shortly later

Like many many times..

Genuinely like to spot what I missed


What should be taken with a pinch of salt? The video?


Likely to fund their AI misadventures?


BBC news about India has been so negative in the past few years, I have stopped trusting them. Of course there are other news about them spoofing videos.


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