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A CYA letter full of illogical rationalization.


FYI, this was posted a month ago when discussing thermal effects of clock drift. I thought it was quite interesting view of what the WWVB location looks like:

https://jila.colorado.edu/news-events/articles/spare-time

Discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46042946


One question I have is did DOGE decisions have anything to do with this? Because I know they took knives to NIST.

Residents and some businesses of Boulder have been without power since Tuesday. There was an issue about 10 years ago which caused 1000 homes to burn down and the power company was found liable. They change their actions. Then during the next high wind event, the power company preemptively cut power and businesses sued them for loss of revenue. Now the power company is playing it safe and turning off power to residents and keeping downtown businesses powered.

Maybe their generator failing was DOGE related, but wouldn’t have happened if state level shenanigans were better handled


The Marshall fire was 4 years ago. Almost to the day.

Actually DOGE involvement at the highest level would have resulted in Tesla solar and Tesla powerwall battery backups.

> […] Tesla solar and Tesla powerwall battery backups.

Don't forget Solar Roof.


Apparently no engineers here anymore, all armchair politicians.

When the politicians take a hatchet to the underpinnings of society that we built, we have to get political.

So sad, we used to innovate and stay one step ahead of them. That’s how wealth is created.

Lol, lmao.

Some relevant DOGE’s effects:

-time and frequency division director quit

-NIST emergency management staff at least 50% vacant

-NIST director of safety retired, and NIST safety was already understaffed when compared to DOE labs

-NOAA emergency manager on the same Boulder campus laid off

etc


Any day now

I feel like the "democratization of technology" is on the back slide. For the longest time, we had more and more access to high end technology at very reasonable price points.

Now it feels like if you're not Facebook, Google, OpenAI, etc. etc. computation isn't for you.

I hope this is just a blip, but I think there is a trend over the past few years.


I also hope its just a blip, but I don't actually think it is.

The democratization of technology was something that had the power to break down class barriers. Anyone could go get cheap, off the shelf hardware, a book, and write useful software & sell it. It became a way to take back the means of production.

Computing being accessible and affordable for everyone = working class power.

That is why its backsliding. Those in power want the opposite, they want to keep control. So we don't get to have open devices, we get pushed to thin clients & locked boot loaders, and we lose access to hardware as it increasingly only gets sold B2B (or if they do still sell to consumers, they just raise prices until most are priced out).

When the wealthy want something, that something becomes unavailable to everyone else.


Arguably Google and others like them would not even exist without access to cheap off the shelf hardware in their early days.


Yes, and that's a part of the appeal to companies like Google. They've climbed the ladder, and now they're pulling it up behind them so others can't climb up to catch them.


Definitely. And there's a tendency for individuals and particularly corporations to pull up the ladder behind them. They know that leaving things accessible means they could face major competition 5 years down the road. So they do what they can to prevent that.


Exactly! Apple wouldn't have existed without access to the MOS 6502 and other electronics, which allowed Woz to carry out his dream of building a personal computer. Microsoft might not have existed without the Altair 8800. Many 1990s and 2000s web startups got off the ground with affordable, available hardware, whether it's hand-me-down RISC workstations or commodity x86 PCs.

Granted, to be fair, many of today's startups and small businesses are made possible by AWS, Google Cloud, Microsoft Azure, and other cloud services. It is sometimes cheaper to rent a server than to own one, and there are fewer system administration chores. However, there's something to be said about owning your own infrastructure rather than renting it out, and I think a major risk of compute power being concentrated by just a few major players is the terms of computation being increasingly dictated by those players.


> Those in power want the opposite, they want to keep control. So we don't get to have open devices, we get pushed to thin clients & locked boot loaders

While it's undeniable that MAFIAA et al have been heavily lobbying for that crap... the problem is, there are lots of bad actors out there as well.

I 'member the 00s/10s, I made good money cleaning up people's computers after they fell for the wrong porn or warez site. Driver signatures and Secure Boot killed entire classes of malware persistence.


Is this not just "with freedom comes responsibility" applied to technology? Often the freedom to do something means that, when given that sovereignty and missing the requisite experience, that means you also end up with the freedom to harm yourself (whether through a misunderstanding of a danger or just simple error.)

Do we want to accept that as a potential consequence, or have someone else choose for us what consequences we are allowed to accept?


> Do we want to accept that as a potential consequence, or have someone else choose for us what consequences we are allowed to accept?

Unfortunately, I think the old guard here is dying out and the majority want someone else choosing for them, which is why all the age verification & chat control-like bills have broad bipartisan support.

I'm in the "with freedom comes responsibility" camp. Obviously we should build secure systems, but our devices shouldn't be impenetrable by their own user. The "security" we are getting now is just security against the user having the freedom to do as they wish with their devices and software.

The cultural zeitgeist surrounding internet and computing freedom has changed to be in favor of more control and censorship. Not sure how we can stop it.


I don't see how it can be a blip if AI actually turns out to be successful. They'll likely gobble up any lose hardware for their datacenters until only scraps are left or the AI bubble pops if AGI isn't achieved in the next few years and stock values fall off a cliff


Interesting take.

In a naive way, when rich entities are interested in a limited resource it's basically over.

Somehow I can see a parallel with the housing crisis where the price go higher and higher.

I can't see both of them ending anytime soon unless there is a major paradigm shift in our life.


What's causing the housing crisis?


Corruption, Zoning, Investment housing


I'm not a fan of ultra big tech, but I don't get the concern here exactly.

What high end technology do you want that you can't get?

In the 90s, I paid nearly $10k for a high-end PC. Today, I can get something like an Nvidia RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell for ~$8k, with 24,064 CUDA cores and 96 GB RAM, that's capable of doing LLM inference at thousands of tokens per second.

I realize the prices from this example are a bit steep for many people, but it's not out of line historically with high-end hardware - in fact the $10k from the 90s would be something like $25k today.

My point is I don't see how "if you're not Facebook, Google, OpenAI, etc. etc. computation isn't for you." I'd love an example if I'm missing something.


Software has been moving in the right direction. Tons of open source projects for every application imaginable. But hardware has gotten more closed. You can't replace batteries in phones, they get pre-loaded with state level spyware, laptops today have about the same hard drive space as 10 years ago to drive cloud usage, and GPUs and now memory seem to be becoming increasingly cost prohibitive for consumers.



It's likely that all the mega cloud and AI companies want regular people forced to go to them for solutions and buying up any companies that might pose a potential for allowing that. In response they will use a small percentage of the trillions being thrown at them to eliminate those companies that allow for self hosting or mid tier providers to thrive.


This is an unreal thing to say. Dude I can buy a chip on eBay with almost a gigabyte of L3 cache. That’s never been possible before.


It's definitely just a blip.


100% agree.

A little foil hat conspiracy i supposed, but the big companies saw nobodies become incredibly wealthy over the last decade, and this is the new companies protecting their position by limiting technology.


See: banality of evil


Seems like Arendt got it wrong. She let herself be fooled by Eichmann. He wasn’t banal at all.

Bettina Stangneth, “Eichmann Before Jerusalem” (2014)

https://newcriterion.com/article/the-profundity-of-evil/


Stangneth seems like an important thinker, but wow that article hasn't aged well. Talking about the "profundity" of Hamas evil with nary a mention of Israeli genocide. You can say September 2024 was too soon to tell ... but it wasn't actually. Pure islamophobic propaganda.


it's almost like the people you call evil are just regular people

anyone can be evil, anyone can be good, anyone can be both even on the same day or be seen as one contemporarily and the other historically

so perhaps painting specific groups of people as the incarnation of pure evil is not a good idea

unless you're trying to sell a book or get ad revenue


You've misunderstood the point of historical absentee analysis and rhe banality of evil.

It is comforting to think that there is a group of "evil people" who are innately different, but most evil is done by people similar to people you know.

Just because your neighbor Joe or your aunt Bertha is a "great person" who coaches the local sports team doesn't mean they aren't evil if they also spend their days working to target minorities and get them thrown in jail or worse - or building the tools used for authoritarians and voting for them.


The line between good and evil runs through every human heart.


Which means we need to blatantly and explicitly call out the ones who are choosing to use their evil side for outsized material gains at the expense of a huge majority?


People are motivated by things other than material gains. The hong wei bings were not motivated by material gains. they were motivated by the four olds --erasing the four olds.


> anyone can be evil, anyone can be good,

Not to be dismissive of your point, but this may be a thought-terminating cliché. That's not an argument that would hold up in court against pedophiles and murderers; I would argue that it shouldn't also hold for fascists.

The last one... well, we thought that decent people were the norm and that people would understand the nuance and spirit of laws; however, that hasn't been the case, so you see evil fascists skirting by because they're convinced that "the letter" of the law didn't specifically ban something, so it must be permissible.

> so perhaps painting specific groups of people as the incarnation of pure evil is not a good idea

Sorry to burst your bubble, but people consistently doing evil things that don't course-correct once exposed to new information are evil; those are the people we're referring to... (i.e. "a turd by any other name would smell as shit").

"We live in a society", we have a sort of social contract with each other (meaning, it's in our best interest to be nice to one another) and laws that we follow (in case someone isn't following the former).

I think most people would agree that 10 or 20 years ago, we'd be (mostly) lineally progressing towards peace and unity (glossing over some wars, as most people wanted to believe that "once that is over, we can proceed with 'progress'")...

Most people believed it so, that we didn't really give any attention to people that asked "what do we do if the fascists rise to power?"... Many laughed it off! "Fascists!? That's SO 1930's Europe! Besides, everyone knows that fascists are evil, and no one wants to be evil, right?".

So, you can imagine that almost nobody had "coordinated fascist international takeover" nor "brainwashed pedophile-apologist fascist takeover of the US" on their bingo cards. Interesting times...


If they're regular people why socially do we define them as rich?

They're typical biology like everyone else but politically and economically able to influence everyone else's lives.


Exactly. They're millions of times overrepresented in influence whereas they may have at most 1.5x (10x if we're being really generous) the skills of an average person.

In statistics, they'd be outliers and they'd be deleted from the dataset. In the news, it would be called bias. In a trampoline, they'd pierce the thing and drill down the ground; so, any outsized influence they have literally stamps out the life of a (trampoline) party.


Definitely the sign of a stable, well run government.


And NASA is going to do this how? NASA is currently in the process of being gutted. Sure, there's a chance that they will be reconstituted in the future, but I wouldn't hold my breath.




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