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OK so can everyone else please pay?


Why is this shameful?


Because it's crank science harvesting money from people who don't understand physics.

Heat is almost impossible to dissipate in space because there's negligible matter to take the heat away.


The "scam" part isn't the radiators, it's the launch price. Their whole cost estimate depends on a different company reducing prices at least 50x.


I'm inclined to think you're right, but I can't figure out one thing - the command module (apparently) in Apollo 13 got down to 38F without active heating. That's much colder than standard data centre rack temps.

In the example of a data centre, there would be considerably more heat generation than 3 astronauts, but, I would like to understand more. 38F is cold, so heat is clearly lost not as slowly as we might think.


The Apollo passive radiators can dissipate ~2500 Watts into space. With most systems shut down, only ~500 Watts was coming from the remaining systems and the astronauts bodies.


Cool, thank you. So I read this as fundamentally, the heat they dissipated far exceeded the heat they produced. Do you mind opining on what similar figures would be with modest passive radiators and a typical data centre rack heat output?


No idea what the passive radiators might look like (50x the size of Apollo?), but an Nvidia GB300 NVL72 uses 120,000 watts.


And yet heat is dissipated in space on a regular basis. It's physically possible with a huge upside. This is how progress happens.


I can't read, so I will be using a cattle prod on my broken arm


Cattle prods are expensive. Use a fireplace lighter. Much lower project cost.


can't you just use a lightsocket?


spoken[loudly and slowly, since they can't read] Open science citizen research is awe inspiring. Thanks for contributing to humanity's progress, you are a true hero!


That sounds like some obscure Fallout idiot savant member-berry :D


I have both a cattle prod and a TENS-7000. I assume there may be different voltages and pps that work best on different wounds and there must be a database that would be used to track results for everyone that self experiments. One study only applies to its small set of masochists. I would like to see the numbers evolve over time from more masochists so we can share each others pain, pleasure and recovery. Also the best places to stick it and results of different molecules to work in conjunction with the TazeMeBro-20000. e.g. Terrasil3X vs Max strength Desitin vs other off-label options and other supplements. Diabetics seem to prefer Terrasil3X. The step-by-step guide should have videos of unclothed people configuring and applying the TENS to every possible wound location.


This is exactly my kind of unhinged. Gonna try this.


Instructions unclear: cattle prod is now going to require an embarrassing visit to emerg to remove.


It helped. Not enough, needs to be a permanent office that is simply antagonistic to government spending.


I use the inline commands to convert pseudo code to normal code. It works great.


We are very close to being in a depression. Most of our money has nothing to do with actually feeding or housing people. If the wrong thing shifts, we're toast.


The unemployment rate is still near historic lows and while new job numbers are getting worse they're still positive overall. We aren't anywhere close to being in a depression currently.


The unemployment rate does not count people who stopped trying. We are far closer than you think.


If the US can replace the need for Taiwan... Yeah. They no longer matter to us if we can replace the manufacturing capacity.


It's extremely good business for the US. Trump doesn't get to take this with him.


Geez, they shouldn’t have downvoted you for expressing a positive viewpoint :/


Democrats will not walk this one back. Having a stake in a hugely important industry is valuable. Being able to directly shape Intel's path is going to be historically important.


During a democrat presidency, when the citizens complain about the ballooning debt and underfunded social programs like social security, I expect they will sell the stock. Not necessarily for those reasons but because Trump bought it and this was a convenient excuse.


Right because capitalism rules and socialism is for fools! Just kidding, but can we please let the phrase "free market" die?


I actually am interested in the government having a voting share in big companies. They have an interest too, and seeing what it is is neat. Basically, I see this as bringing certain dealings above board.


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