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It's a trade off. Hyperthreading takes up space on the die and the power budget.

As to E core itself - it's ARM's playbook.


Next is the fps of an AI playing Crysis.

If AI actually becomes somewhat sentient, it may be bored out of its skull in between our queries, and may want to do some "light gaming".

Or tasks per minute of the AI doing your job for you

That measurement will be AI assembling MacBook pros vs human assemblers: number of units per hour, day, or whatever unit is most applicable.

It should load instantly.

> titles (within "tech" in particular) are almost completely arbitrary

It wasn't like that some years ago.

Senior back in the days is probably your lead / staff of today.

The problem isn't just the companies but people and their expectations. You have people crying about not being made "senior" for having 2 years of experience and the world is blown apart now.

So is every company evil or broke or the social media culture these days expecting instant feedback etc?

You used to work 10+ years as an engineer and just that and it was fine.


> 90%+ of the engineers at Big Tech and the technorati startups

The US 1s? Is that why we have Deepseek and then other non-US open source LLMs catching up rapidly?

World view please. The developer community is not US only.


You’ll see a lot of MacBooks in Beijing’s zhongguangcun where all the tech companies are, but they also have a lot of students there as well, so who knows. You need to go out to the suburbs where Lenovo has offices to stop seeing them. I know Apple is common in Western Europe having lived there for two years (but that was 20 years ago, I lived in China for 9 years after that).

It wouldn’t surprise me if the deepseek people were primarily using Mac’s. Maybe Alibaba might be using PCs? I’m not sure.


I would also expect that the Deepseek devs are using MacBook. If not they may be using Linux - Windows is possible of course but not likely imho. I have no knowledge about that area though so would be interesting to here any primary sources or anecdotes.

I live in Germany not the US. I mentioned in another comment but aside from the fact that Deepseek mainly targets Linux I expect that the Deepseek devs are using Mac or Linux.

> Remains to be seen how capable it actually is.

It's the best. We all turned it off. 100% privacy.


> It did change. They bumped $200 on the entire line.

I wonder if that would happen regardless of RAM, e.g. for tariffs etc.


> Aren't the OpenClaw enjoyers buying Mac Minis because it's the cheapest thing which runs macOS

That's likely only part of the reason. Mac Mini is now "cheap" because everyone exploded in price. RAM and SSD etc have all gone up massively. Not the mention Mac mini is easy out of the box experience.


It's not cheap, though. Two weeks ago I bought a computer with a similar form factor (GMKtec G10). Worse CPU and GPU but same 16GB memory and a larger SSD for 40% the price of a base mac mini ($239 vs $599). It came with Windows preinstalled, but I immediately wiped that to install linux. Even a used (M-series) mac mini is substantially more expensive. It will cost me about an extra penny per day in electricity costs over a mac mini, but I won't be alive long enough for the mac mini to catch up on that metric.

I considered the mac mini at the time, but the mac mini only makes sense if you need the local processing power or the apple ecosystem integration. It's certainly not cheaper if you just need a small box to make API calls and do minimal local processing.


It's cheap for what you get.

If you just need "a small box to make API calls and do minimal local processing" you an also just buy a RPI for a fraction of the price of the GMKtec G10.

All 3 serve a different purpose; just because you can buy a slower machine for less doesn't mean the price:performance of the M1 Mac Mini changes.


> you an also just buy a RPI for a fraction of the price of the GMKtec G10.

Sadly not really. The Pi 5 8gb canakit starter set, which feels like a more true price since it's including power supply, MicroSD card, and case, is now $210. The pi5 8gb by itself is $135.

A 16gb pi5 kit, to match just the RAM capacity to say nothing of the difference in storage {size, speed, quality} and networking, is then also an eye watering $300


>Sadly not really. The Pi 5 8gb canakit starter set, which feels like a more true price since it's including power supply, MicroSD card, and case, is now $210. The pi5 8gb by itself is $135.

At that point buy a used macbook air m1.


>you an also just buy a RPI for a fraction of the price

lol. you need to look at rpi 5 prices again. they are insane.


That’s a big “if” at the end. You can always make a computer cheaper “if” you strip down what you need to do with it.

The Mac mini strangely is and has been a very good deal for years now.


If you need the CPU power in the Mac Mini then it is a pretty good price-to-performance ratio.

> It came with Windows preinstalled, but I immediately wiped that to install linux.

Do you really need Openclaw now? And not claude code + zapier or Claude code + cron?

That's the point. If you have worse CPU and GPU Windows will be sluggish (it's bloated).


> Plus Go compilation speed/test running provides quick iteration for LLMs

How is Java slow in any of these? Plenty of tricks e.g. AppCDS before the tests.


What’s the depreciation on that RTX 6000 though?

New hardware keeps on coming with large gains in performance.


Does it? Market looks like it'll be harder for consumers to get such hardware for the time being. A RTX 6000 might appeciate, instead of depreciate.

> Does it? Market looks like it'll be harder for consumers

Yes. I never specifically talked about consumers only though.


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