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My family drove to Crater Lake in Oregon last summer. We stopped for gas in a tiny one road town near the park. Due to it being tourist season, we needed to wait around 20 minutes to get ‘service’ at the gas pump. The station only had one person pumping gas. This person was completely overwhelmed. I gave her my credit card and she started to fill up our tank. 5 minutes after driving away from the station I realized the fuel gauge was still indicating close to empty. I turned around and waited another 15 minutes just to tell her she had apparently forgotten to fill my tank. She was incredibly embarrassed (rightly so!). She then told me to LEAVE MY CAR RUNNING while she pumped gas so I could watch the gauge move “just to make sure it was working”. LOL! I still smdh thinking about this experience.


> LEAVE MY CAR RUNNING

AFAIR it was a problem almost a century ago, not now. It's still a thing I can't get comfortable with, but there is no chance of going wrong of a car just running while it's being fueled up.


Some fuel systems are pressurized these days, running cars with such a system opened up to the air will cause warnings to be displayed on the dash. Probably fine but may cause confusion/unneeded mechanic visits.

I personally will continue to religiously minimize spark and heat sources while fueling. I've seen damaged spark plugs complete their circuit by sparking through the air (and apparently keep running the engine just fine). Best to eliminate a class of problems entirely.


It's an engine and the brakes are friction. Parts of it get very hot. The whole thing is a huge heat source. Cars get hot enough to light dried grass on fire. The risk is inherent in the platform.

Outside of not fueling near an open flame, the more moderate strategy is to always plan your exits and know where that fire suppression button is relative to where you are.


Outside of not fueling near an open flame, the more moderate strategy is to always plan your exits and know where that fire suppression button is relative to where you are.

My car doesn't have a "fire suppression button", nor does my gas station, the closest they have is an emergency fuel cutoff switch that stops the pumps, but it doesn't do any active fire suppression.


Then your state almost certainly requires them to have extinguishers, or they have an automatically activating system. Not all states require an automatic system, but there is definitely fire specific equipment at the place where you are fueling your vehicle.

Familiarity with your surroundings is far more valuable than superstitious behavior.


In my state, there's no requirement for an automatic system, and no requirement for a fire extinguisher at the pumps, just that they have to have an approved 20BC extinguisher no more than 75 feet from the pumps.


My mother-in-law once attempted to turn on the ignition while my father-in-law was pumping gas. She was hot and wanted the A/C back on.

My wife and I were in the back seat and not pleased by that action. I would think a modern car can handle that without exploding but why risk it? Just deal with the heat for, oh, another 30 seconds. We were filling up a Honda Accord, not some camper van with a giant tank.


>My family drove to Crater Lake in Oregon last summer. We stopped for gas in a tiny one road town near the park.

Shady Cove? Chevron next to a fire station? If so, I stop by there whenever I go out that way. Really conveniently sited, honestly.


"...but with remote you have to poke someone" This example does not make sense because in both scenarios, in person or remote, you're 'poking' someone (aka disrupting someone) to ask a question.

Also physically schlepping a laptop around to show someone is way more work than a simple screen share....and in either scenario here you're needing to 'carve out time'.


> Most mid-level and senior people have not learned the skills to mentor while working remotely.

I do not understand why you would choose to generalize to such an extreme degree. How could you possibly have the confidence to speak in such broad terms?

Reflecting on my last 6 years of experience as an engineer (which includes both office-based work and being remote) this is not true at all.


>I do not understand why you would choose to generalize to such an extreme degree. How could you possibly have the confidence to speak in such broad terms?

Not him but it also matches my experience. Many have not learned to mentor remotely or just don't like mentoring and it's easier to show their contempt online vs face to face.


gp is responding to a comment that calls the study propaganda based on their individual experience. Since everyone seems to be generalizing to an extreme degree it feels a bit disingenuous to call out this one just because you agree with gp.


Their demo looks nice in terms of the ‘flow’ building UX. I’d be willing to bet they’re using React Flow[0] as the primary rendering engine of this tool.

[0] reactflow.dev


This rings true for me as well. I’m in my mid thirties and just moved out of Seattle to live on a nearby island surrounded by trees. The night sounds of coyotes and owls is so much better than a city street.


It seems like you’re justifying the status quo when I think a much more practical answer would be to simply swap out the chickens for chickpeas or soy or any number of other high protein and cruelty free alternatives which would also almost positively be _way_ cheaper and less wasteful.


If people want to eat chickpeas or soy, they are free to do so. Similarly, if people want to eat cheap chicken, people who don't eat chicken shouldn't have any say into it.


I love the mentality of a lot of people. I feel like free market extremists would literally buy and sell anything from anyone in the world and be like 'listen, all I did was SELL nerve gas to the general, I never intended for him to use it on that ethnic minority group.'


Nerve gas kills people. If the distinction between humans and non-human animals is not recognized, I am afraid all arguments will fall onto deaf ears.


There's a distinction, sure, but it's not infinite.

Would you shrug your shoulders and say "they're not humans" when confronted with an animal abuser torturing intelligent family pets? I hope not. The intelligence of some non-humans, like great apes, is pretty incontrovertible. People are familiar with the social and emotional capabilities of dogs, but pigs and cows are surprisingly similar.

On the other hand, would I get up on arms if you squished a mosquito, or if a starving person ate a fish? If you ate a tomato? Of course not, that's ridiculous.

Somewhere on that spectrum is a point where we can evaluate the morality and the utility of killing male chickens to make egg farming more profitable.

It's critical to allow society to understand that part of the system that produces eggs in sterile styrofoam packages for 99 cents is a shredder that turns chicks into cow feed. People who do not understand the food industry cannot make informed choices about what to consume, and people supplying that demand cannot be expected to universally buck incentives.


Yes, there's a distinction, but we obviously see non-human animals as being more similar to humans in terms our moral obligations than we do non-living matter, and generally the closer to being a human-like, the more we care about how we treat it. A baby chicken can literally bond to humans, follow us around, and interact with us in various ways. If that isn't enough to grant it as being deserving of ethical/humane treatment, I don't know what is.


The 1000 IQ aliens cannot arrive quickly enough to cure us of this hubris.


I'm looking forward to them destroying the Earth with us on it to build an interstellar bypass, and then telling us that our feelings on the matter aren't important because we're lesser beings.


By this logic I could say that I am allowed to kill and hurt my dog if I want so, and people who don't like hurting dogs shouldn't have any say into it.


We could generalize this to all laws. Hey, if you don't want to do it, simply don't do it, but it's not your business whether I do.

Anyway, interesting how the discussion quickly moved from "billions of people are starving, it would be unethical not to..." to "...but they like the taste of chicken".


>If people want to eat chickpeas or soy, they are free to do so. Similarly, if people want to eat cheap chicken, people who don't eat chicken shouldn't have any say into it.

If people want to eat chickpeas or soy, they are free to do so. Similarly, if people want to eat cheap human flesh, people who don't eat human flesh shouldn't have any say in it.


I work at a large company based in Seattle and this is exactly my experience. I go into the office maybe once every few weeks and maybe talk to one or two people from my org. We do coordinate to get together in the office every couple months which is kind of fun but not worth doing on a weekly basis as our team is already distributed across the country and world.


Yours is an enviable existence.

For real though if you aren’t aware- it’s a social media platform for work(ing ‘professionals’).


What a kind/just way to open, haha. I thought, 'how does one not know about this, but knows HN?'... in less kind terms.

Seriously musha68k, steer clear - Facebook but with even weirder content

A lot of things like 'I ignored my family for work' with applauding


The repo owner of this collection is also the creator of React Flow fyi. He probably wasn’t trying to show off but provide a list for people to browse and decide for themselves.


yep! That's the point.


I applaud any bad press on InfoSys. I picked up contract gig through them a few years ago. Here are some of the takeaways from my short lived experience: - It took them over two weeks to send me a computer. - They cancelled PTO for everyone. (this was the most egregious single thing they did) - They had absolute worst internal site for accessing HR documents and accessing personal resources. Just a maze of links. You could only access it via Internet Explorer (I swear I'm not joking). Everything took forever to load. It was like stepping back into 1997. - When I gave my 2 week notice, they refused and said I 'owed' them at least a month. LOL not sure how they think they can control people like that. I gleefully told them to 'deal with it'. This happened about 45 days after I started as it became obvious very quickly how bad this company treats people.


was in a client position (Infosys was contracting for the companied I worked for). Absolute worst processes in the world. At one point they blocked legit dev domains in their firewall and took 3 weeks to unblock a mongo db after vehement protests. DON'T touch Infosys with a 100ft pole


> You could only access it via Internet Explorer (I swear I'm not joking).

That has been in the case in most investment banks as well.


> When I gave my 2 week notice, they refused and said I 'owed' them at least a month. LOL not sure how they think they can control people like that

To be fair, in many countries (probably most developed ones) there are regulated mandatory min and max notice periods. E.g. in France the standard is 1 to 3 months, negotiable of course.


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