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Notwithstanding the other myriad of reasons to not like Elon Musk (of which there are many)…

You’re equivocating a childish insult with insisting that a person is a pedophile and hiring a private investigator to prove so and then writing scathing emails to reporters because they refuse to repeat claims uncritically. This is an appalling failing of morality on your part.

I’m frankly not inclined to dive into why I, previously a big fan of Elon Musk, find him personally repugnant because I expect you to apply the same standards to everything he does. That doesn’t take away from SpaceX, but we shouldn’t overlook his failings just because rockets are cool.


> hiring a private investigator

Only after being sued. When you sue someone, they're going to try to defend themselves.

Both of them should have just shrugged it off.

> then writing scathing emails

doesn't make someone evil. The whole incident was childish from both sides, but nobody was actually hurt.


He hired the private investigator before he was sued.

You left out the part where he claimed a person was a pedophile and when asked if it was just an insult basically said “no I really think he’s a pedophile”, and started stating made up bullshit about child brides as fact. He only backtracked when he was sued. That is NOT the same as just throwing insults.


More nuance:

"Mr. Musk made these statements based on reports he received from a private investigator he hired to investigate Mr. Unsworth in preparation for the litigation that Mr. Unsworth had already threatened. Unbeknownst to Mr. Musk, the investigator’s reports were fabricated, and the investigator himself turned out to be a convicted felon who had gone to prison for fraud."

"Mr. Musk’s tweet was the culmination of an argument between two people that was punctuated by insults—not a factual accusation of the crime of pedophilia. The firm also demonstrated that Mr. Unsworth had not suffered any injury."

There's more: https://www.quinnemanuel.com/the-firm/our-notable-victories/...

Childish behavior - sure (on both sides). Anybody hurt - no.


This level of defense seems highly inappropriate when you consider that the the unimpressive billionaire doesn't stoop down to this level, has a functional moon lander, ISRU technology that can manufacture solar panels on the moon and a long term plan for getting rid of SLS while the more impressive billionaire is struggling to get to orbit.

As much as I'd like to see boots on the ground on Mars this is where I'm at. In my uneducated opinion, while building the massive rocket is incredibly difficult, its probably the easiest part of a Mars mission.

Is that a Reiser reference or am I missing something?

I appreciate the sentiment behind steelmanning but Trump has had over a decade of publicaly, vocally hating windmills because some were built too close to his golf course. See https://www.npr.org/2013/07/01/196352470/thar-he-blows-trump...

Its completely in-line with his personality to hold onto personal grievances for decades to the point that they become policy.


The Judges appear to have responded to something specific. If it was made-up, they would have thrown the case out harder and sanctioned whoever submitted false evidence. So I assume somebody with an ability to legally bind intel into the right form was persuaded to say something.

Perhaps the objection started out with something fundamentally irrational or opinion-based, and someone was ordered to "reverse-engineer" an objection out of that which wasn't trivially refutable - e.g. "the noise from the turbines will keep our submarine sonar from working" or "reports say that human smugglers are hiding aboard the windmills" or whatever.

Yes, I think thats very plausible. "inshore defense operations in an area of strategic importance will be excessively impeded by both development of this site, and future operations in ways which <REDACTED>" type thing.

In the quote in the article there, the one judge responds to something specific by calling it "irrational".

> Its completely in-line with his personality to hold onto personal grievances for decades to the point that they become policy.

I feel like much of what he does today can be directly attributed to the epic roasting he got from Obama at the correspondents' dinner. Most of us would be absolutely honored by being roasted by the sitting president, but he seemed at the time to take it very personally.


This is very much a root cause.

Not just the fact that Scottish wind farms prevailed, also that he was relentlessly mocked, ridiculed, and protested against in unavoidably visible ways by the Scots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNWmZwObZc

( Note: while a recent youtube clip, the anti Trump protests in Scotland date back to well before his campaign for his first term as POTUS )


I’m pretty sure people vastly overstate how important “HD pre-mapped roads” are to Waymo.

I am pretty sure you are underestimating how important it is for them. But we can look at their own scientific publications.[1]

No maps no driving....carnival ride...

"High Definition (HD) maps are maps with precise definitions of road lanes with rich semantics of the traffic rules. They are critical for several key stages in an autonomous driving system, including motion forecasting and planning. However, there are only a small amount of real-world road topologies and geometries, which significantly limits our ability to test out the self-driving stack to generalize onto new unseen scenarios..."

[1] - https://waymo.com/research/hdmapgen-a-hierarchical-graph-gen...


“Second Amendment solutions” are only OK to talk about if you’re a Republican (I.e. “Real American”).

I’m being sarcastic, for the record. Back during his first term, Trump talked about “second amendment people” doing something about liberal Supreme Court justices (iirc) and the right wing media treated everyone as crazy for thinking that was wildly inappropriate.


It's really interesting how the same propaganda is applied by fascist governments everywhere. The ones supporting the "nationalist" government are the patriots and the others are enemies


Do you happen to know if ES was the only storage? Its been almost 8 years, but if I was building a log storage and analysis system, then I'd push the logs to S3 or some other object store and build an ES index off of that S3 data. From the consumer's perspective, it may look like we're using ES to store the data, but we have a durable backup to regenerate ES if necessary.


Searchable snapshots in Elasticsearch can be backed by S3 and they perform very well. No need to store the data on hot nodes any longer than it takes for the index to do a rollover, and from then it's all S3.


> I really never understood how people could store very important information in ES like it was a database.

I agree.

Its been a while since I touched it, but as far as I can remember ES has never pretended to be your primary store of information. It was mostly juniors that reached for it for transaction processing, and I had to disabuse them of the notion that it was fit for purpose there.

ES is for building a searchable replica of your data. Every ES deployment I made or consulted sourced its data from some other durable store, and the only thing that wrote to it were replication processes or backfills.


What engine and data format were you using for your experiment?

You mention parquet and spark, but I’m wondering if you tried any of the “Lakehouse” formats that are basically parquet + a metadata layer (ie iceberg). I’d probably at least give Trino or Presto a shot, although I suspect that you’ll have similar metadata issues with those engines.


Yeah but everyone involved in the LLM space is encouraging you to just slurp all your data into these things uncritically. So the comparison to eval would be everyone telling you to just eval everything for 10x productivity gains, and then when you get exploited those same people turn around and say “obviously you shouldn’t be putting everything into eval, skill issue!”


Yes, because the upside is so high. Exploits are uncommon, at this stage, so until we see companies destroyed or many lives ruined, people will accept the risk.


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