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Yep, that's what I thought nano had done:

https://nano.org/en

instant, fee's a fraction of a cent, I thought this was it, international payments that don't rely on visa/mastercard!

and then it just went no where :\


Turns out nobody is actually interested in transacting with crypto otherwise Nano would have been a winner. I also love Banano, a Nano fork where you mine by folding proteins. Work that has actual value.


Because in practice services like TransferWise solved this problem using fiat currencies with fees low enough not to make it worth bothering with crypto.


I duno, I still can't make a payment on the net without Visa or Mastercard, still a problem to be solved to me

Looks like other people still trying to solve as well:

> Earlier this year, Coinbase changed online payments forever with a new protocol called x402. But could this technology really usher in a new age of 'machine to machine' payments? Let's run it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6wc6yvoZLY


> I still can't make a payment on the net without Visa or Mastercard

Let me introduce you to the wonders of Discover.


For larger amounts it makes sense to use the bitcoin rails for international transfers. I'm doing bank to bank international transfers and using bitcoin saves around 3% compared to Wise and you get the money immediately (or within 1hr, depending on what you use).


Few years ago I needed to transfer a big sum from a Scandinavian country into Euro. The official bank exchange rate plus fees was worse than Wise’s. But I asked the bank and the bank gave me an exchange rate that was like 0.1% better than one from wise.


Depending on the direction, but there are ways to actually make a little extra on top of the middle exchange rate (e.g. on the USD to EUR path), since there are many people that want to buy no-KYC bitcoin in Europe and they are willing to pay a couple % extra.


Man they don't solve it for me. They charge much more for using a credit card vs a checking account, especially when going across currencies, and I consider it pretty dumb to share my checking account information around when I can control things much more easily with a credit card. And literally any fee they charge is more than what nano charges. It's just that nobody takes nano :(


Every time I try to use TramsferWise, I end up jumping through KYC hoops for hours - days. Sending crypto is much simpler and faster.


Almost every cryptocurrency starts out with low fees and then fees increase when it gets popular and runs into processing limits.


Okay full disclosure, I believe in stablecoins only but what are your thoughts on nano. It has zero fees and I worked using its zero fees to store data/timestamps in it by nanotimestamps

Personally I prefer usdc on polygon


> what are your thought on nano. It has zero fees

I repeat:

> Almost every cryptocurrency starts out with low fees and then fees increase when it gets popular and runs into processing limits.


Once again, I have no skin in the game at all and I do not own any nano.

Nano uses proof of work to counter scam from both sending and receiving side and it uses open representative voting.

Basically nano works from my understanding as like hey, we will host the servers for nano since its kinda cheap to do so but also that we can promote our services via the voting model, mostly done by exchanges like binance,kraken for free.

The model of nano lacks the idea of payment in the first place, its whole model is built around send/recieve proof of works and representative voting

I created a tool which did literally 10s of transactions on nano tokens I got from a faucet and they had 0 fees so I stored data like "hello world" lets say on the chains without losing a single coin (I had like 0.000001) or something

They still are sustainable and without spam by that much partially because of their proof of works and from what I know, it can get really hard to spam if one tries to do so.

Personally there is nanusd but its highly unregulated, just created by one guy, I wish if something like nano can be created at a stablecoin level but yea.

What are your thoughts now, I wish to not sell on nano (the coin) but ORV (the technology), I find it more interested than blockchain essentially, there are some minor differences like nano uses lattice structure etc.

Also please dont buy nano reading this, I find the coin still speculative and I wish if someone can create a more regulated version of a stablecoin combined with running basically a nano node internally, its all open source I guess.


> The model of nano lacks the idea of payment in the first place

oh well then I guess it's not a currency so why are we talking about it in the first place?


I meant gas payments sorry, not payments itself...

Mistakes happen and I am human so sorry about the misclarifications I suppose.

But basically the coin's structure/data structure doesn't have a gas fees data in it and its always 0, the network might take some work function which can take some time to process and there have been some attempts at spamming it but the recent network from what I have heard is spam resistant and it can happen to any such coin but honestly I do like 0.0000001 faucet transactions and they happen for free and instantly the last time I tried it.

I am still not shilling nano coin, I think the technology is cool and something similar but with more stablecoin-esque asthetic could be built and I am kinda interested in building something like it just out of curiosity ngl and I am worried what can be the idea or is it even worth it but yea...


When throughput I create 9999999999 accounts each sending 99999999 transactions per second, something is going to prioritize which transactions to include in the chain. If you don't choose intentionally, you will choose unintentionally.


See personally I hate crypto, I am not even touching / do not even want to stablecoins too much now(I made a comment about it somewhere here) but basically I am getting rid of that too so yeah

I am saying that yes they choose intentionally by having buckets of higher value transactions earlier than later but the transactions happens instantly even lower amounts

That being said, there have been points in past where I have seen in its history where it got spammed and yea it can have an impact but even that, they say that they have mitigated it now

But even then, the premise is in all honesty you were mentioning how every crypto has fees but even if it may have spam which might delay an transaction from its default literally 1 second to lets say something like a minute...

Even then it will take 0 gas fees. So I think I still gave an solution to you no?

That being said, I think its tech is cool but the way its implemented in stablecoins whatever could've been nice but its all just regulatory gimmick. Personally I am not that interested in any of these things but still I feel like it was worth mentioning.

I think nano has more potential whatever that means than bitcoin but I am not gonna be foolish and invest in nano because I dont think its something like investing, it would still be speculation and the traders and everyone is irrational because its sort of gambling and I think that what nano can be good for is, instead is people working on it to create their own stablecoins or tokenomics but as I have said, I personally think most if not everything in crypto is kinda about regulations so I have mixed opinions honestly about crypto in general but the technology behind nano was cool tho which is what I wanted to share (still please do not invest in nano, I think its highly speculative and irrational market and tech literally doesnt matter and if you like the tech, build something similar but with which can have more financial sense I suppose and usecases etc. too I suppose)


Nano is pretty amazing, but, yeah, the interest is in profit not the technology, so it's fading into the background. Pity.


over time you would assume the models will get more efficient and the hardware will get better to the point that buying a massive new gpu with boatloads of vram is just not necessary

maybe 128gb of vram becomes the new mid tier model and most llms can fit into this nicely and do everything one wants in an llm

given how fast llms are progressing it wouldn’t surprise me if we reach this point by 2030


Considering there were two generations (around 4.5 years) of top-tier consumer GPUs (3090/4090) stuck at 24GB VRAM max, and the current one (5090) "only" bumped it up to 32GB, I think you'll be waiting more than 5 years before 128GB VRAM comes to the mid tier model GPU. 12-16GB is currently mid tier and has been since LLMs became "a thing".

I hope I'm wrong though, and we see a large bump soon. Even just 32GB in the mid tier would be huge.

I'm really tempted to try out a Mac Studio with 256+ GB Unified Memory (192 GB VRAM), but it is sadly out of my budget at the moment. I know there is a bandwidth loss, but being able to run huge models and huge contexts locally would be quite nice.


i don’t quite see the point in waiting, if you’re using something like lm studio just download the latest and greatest and you’re on your way, where is the fatigue part?

i can understand maybe if you’re spending hours setting it up but to me these are download and go


Yeah, that’s why I said waiting a year after Llama v1 was good. By that point llama.cpp, LM Studio and Ollama were all pretty well established and a lot of low-hanging fruit around performance and memory mapping stuff was picked.


don’t know why you’re being downvoted, seems reasonable to me


just quickly your website doesn't have https so it says that the site I'm going is insecure:

> Secure Site Not Available

> You’ve enabled HTTPS-Only Mode for enhanced security, and a HTTPS version of businessbooksandco.com is not available.

I was legit taken back for a second wondering what I just clicked on

But cheers, I just realised how far we've come if yours was the first site in years? that I've seen this on


You're right. I know! It's our podcast host, Pinecast. They don't provide HTTPS to customers for the website. Luckily very few people find us through the website. The vast majority are followers on Spotify. Thanks for the feedback.


> Tokyo-based ispace

I cannot believe the old Apple naming scheme is still hanging around, I get that I'm irrationally hating this style of name but I just don't understand, why do I see it as peak lack of creativity?

It's like whenever you can't think of a name for something just go with e-thing or i-thing


Up there is also “Spacr” or “Spacely”. Then next is naming your company after some famous scientist or engineer. Then adding X to it. Then naming it a division of an existing company. Then naming it after a living person. Then naming it something new.

I think the most creative name would likely just be a UUID.


Astro/astral/astra seems to be the most overused prefix in the space industry, to the point you really struggle to distinguish between entities

Cf the propulsion startup ThrustMe


Seriously, I wish each company would use a UUID as an alternate name. Same for each programming language, software project, and so on. The UUID should be on all their web pages.

People who write articles or blogs about them should use the normal name but somewhere should have a table giving the UUIDs of the things they mention.

Then when people are trying to find pages about things with names that are terrible for searching like X or Go they could use the UUID.


This is approximately a description of the GNS pet name system. Also DOIs for scientific articles.


A UUID wouldn't be creative, well, except for the very first time.

Sure, they are all unique. But also very high entropy.


Don't forget Spacey McSpaceface.


Didn’t IBM and others use it before Apple? IBM iSeries came out before the iMac. I think a few companies were using small e and i at the time for the “cool” factor. Intel jumped on the bandwagon after the iMac, IIRC.


IBM rebranded AS/400 to iSeries in 2000, which is after the iMac came out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_eServer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac


Cisco had an ios and iphone before apple. though Im not sure the cisco iphone was actually ever released


But AFAIK, Cisco IOS is all caps, not the cool lowercase i and big second letter.


It's not really better with the startup scene everyone here knows and loves. The hard -r apps that just won't go away (from Flickr to Grindr), endless Libyan domains that slowly gave way to -ify and other fads.


It seems to be a matter of timing. The "r" fad happened when some important niches were being opened. The ly and ify fads just don't seem to have coincided with anything anyone needed or wanted.

I'm sure there's some new fad waiting around the corner in both TLDs and application domains. We'll have to see if any of the apps turn out to be useful and sticks around. The TLD fad will surely explode and then disappear.


Maybe it means something different in Japan, where the primary language and cultural impact of Apple is different.


The company started in 2010


I kinda like it in a.. almost retro style.


> Lemmy is 1000x better even if the total amount of users is less in absolute numbers

This is so true, I've had to put a timer on how much I can use it as I'm addicted like the old school reddit days

I think all it'll take is reddit messing up and lemmy.world might be the new front page of the internet


Reddit really messed up a couple of years ago with the killing off of 3rd party apps and u/spez generally being entirely out of touch, that made such an impact that to this day whenever I find a reddit thread on something I usually see a comment along the lines of "contents deleted in protest".

That permanently lost me from reddit, I tried kbin.social for as long as it was up and I really liked using it. I never really got on with lemmy for some reason. The outcome ended up being me just not using reddit like things, and I really don't miss it that much.


Highly recommend Lemmy, the people who make it are a bit iffy but it definitely gives old school reddit vibes https://lemmy.world/


I wouldn't put 100% of the blame on the Democrats, here in Australia we are frequently voting for the least worst option not the best, and I'm not sure how the Democrats weren't the least worst option when compared to the other option

but for some reason a whole heap of people decided to stay home this time and this is the result, hope they still feel happy with their decision


I've heard that there's polling lately to indicate that's not true (unsure on source, it might have been an interview at Vox.com), and that higher turnout would have advantaged the Republicans further.


Probably stemming from David Shor's Blue Rose Research. I bumped into that @ https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/new-insights-on-why-harris-...


it does look like nitter but I thought it was dead after twitter changed the api after musk took over?


It’s a nitter instance

https://status.d420.de/


how does chatgpt paid compare to perplexity.ai ?


I just used perplexity.ai. The interface is janky and it looks like it just does search.

ChatGPT has image generation, you can upload word docs, images and PDFs and it has a built in Python runtime that it uses to offload math problems to.


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