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This is really cool, nicely done. Q: How did you get the WhatsApp integration working? I thought that was completely closed off unless you are in Europe.

Because it's using an actual Mac as a gateway to run this on: https://docs.clawd.bot/help/faq#do-i-have-to-buy-a-mac-mini-...

Also Ladybird is quite an interesting alternative. Anyone here using it day to day?


Ladybird is a long way off being viable to daily drive


I get timeouts on the app. Not impressed, sorry.


Can you please not post like this, especially in Show HN threads? It's good to let people know when your attempt to use their software runs into problems. But please do it in a helpful way, not a dismissive way.

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: "Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

It's also good to remember that there are special rules for Show HNs in https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html:

Be respectful. Anyone sharing work is making a contribution, however modest.

Ask questions out of curiosity. Don't cross-examine.

Instead of "you're doing it wrong", suggest alternatives. When someone is learning, help them learn more.

When something isn't good, you needn't pretend that it is, but don't be gratuitously negative.


Not respecting international law?


Besides being a fiction very much supported by dictators, international law is a delusion entertained by (a) those who have never lived under a dictatorship and (b) those oblivious to the fact that their freedoms and peace depend on the protection of the world’s most powerful military.


People in Venezuela and Iran have more pressing concerns than international law.


Would be interesting to see whether Gemini could crack this problem.


No. Everyone is on Teams.


Which is unfortunate, but a consequence of Microsoft's perennial, embrace, extend, extinguish - they embraced instant-messaging version 3 (or wherever we are now), and they're onto the extend part - extending Teams' reach by bundling it 'for free' in Office, and the OS, so people don't "need" to buy Slack.

Slack won't be 'extinguished' but it will have a falling market share, despite the dumpster fire that is Teams, and the bean-counters in most corporations getting kudos from their bosses for 'cost savings'.


Teams are decent tbh

Ive been using them since 2021 iirc and they improved a lot

And im using Discord daily which is state of the art


Teams is trash, don't lie like that. It's the single most frustrating piece of software i interact with at work.


Im not lying, I dont have any problems with them

Calendar and meetings are decent, chat is viable and I dont need more

Whats causing problems for you?


Frequently fails to connect, doesn't honor system audio device settings and frequency forgets its own, frequently fails to mark messages as read, sometimes even after hitting "Mark all as read," sometimes fails to send notifications on new chats, especially on my phone.

It's the least reliable chat program I've ever used.


The next victim is going to be Figma



And the network is the computer :)


I always thought wheel was a BSD thing?


Yes. Although I have a vague recollection that some non-BSD tools supported a wheel group if you compiled with -DHAVE_FASCIST_SYSADMIN (see also "opinionated" elsewhere in this thread). But I can't find any trace of that using common search engines anymore, maybe I am misremembering some usenet flamewar.


Have you registered gracehub.com yet? :)


wouldnt it be graceland.com ?


Eh, I'm not really an Elvis fan...

One of the problems that GitHub and GitLab are going to face in the coming years, as Git gets supplanted whatever wins, is that "Git" is in the company name. Those names are going to sound they like provide yesterday's tech, in a hurry.

Not gonna make that same mistake for Grace.


lol no, I did not.

I don't see a venture-driven way to be the thing that replaces Git. And I don't see a way to replace Git without being developing in the open. So, no GraceHub.


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