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One day we'll have biological networks of the size that can compete with today's biggest artificial neural networks, capable of running things like, well, ChatGPT. Then the philosophical questions will run even deeper....


Since they're both neural networks, what questions have changed? I don't see what that clarifies or confounds about the nature of consciousness.


Nobody would argue that turning off ChatGPT is killing a sentient being. With a biological network, "turning it off" and killing it are very close if not the same (depending on who you ask). Biological network are present in our physical reality, you have some matter to deal with, which also makes the experience completely different. People fall in love and have compassion with ChatGPT, what would you think happens if you care for a brain a vat for months? If it is an actual neural structure resembling natural ones, than it might be possible it forms memories and becomes sentient. This is a completetly different array of ethical questions, you can't think of (living) biological matter like a machine, especially not regarding ethics.


> Nobody would argue that turning off ChatGPT is killing a sentient being.

Some do, judging by surveys.

And there was a famous case last year with a different LLM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaMDA#Sentience_claims


“neural nets” may mimic organic neurons but they are not comparable in that way


It's even a bit disturbing to see this confusion in a presumably tech forum. If we started eating our own propaganda...


Kind of reminds me of the X11 logo....


This is fantastic. Great work. Works well on my iPad but no ‘face’ just a blank screen. Crashes on my M1 Mac Air. Let me know if there’s anything I can do to help debug.


In UK it's 100 quid now I think.


DT990 pro headphones all the way for my audio productions. Unfortunately a lack of sound-proofing possibilities has meant that monitors aren't really an option I can personally consider. Love the headphones though.. fellow audio professionals are often surprised when they hear what I've been able to mix on them.


>Unfortunately a lack of sound-proofing possibilities has meant that monitors aren't really an option I can personally consider.

It's not very difficult or extremely costly to decently sound-proof a room - but do you need a dedicated room. You're not supposed to be mixing loud anyway, which also helps.


Soundproofing an apartment is a pain in the ass. Are you thinking about acoustic treatment instead? Decent acoustic treatment can be done by putting absorbers, bass traps, diffusers in the room. Soundproofing is much more involved.


A room, not a whole apartment. From what I read it costs around $3000 to $5000 to have it done professionally in the US (and one can do it himself). You then add acoustic treatment (with commercial or home made items) which is considerably cheaper.

I assume though that you're not expecting Abbey Road level soundproofing, just home-studio level, enough to not annoy the neighbords when monitoring/mixing at a reasonable volume at 2am.


Yes, a room in an apartment. It’s a pain in the ass. Yes, it’s a pain in the ass to soundproof a room to the point you’re not disturbing the upstairs or downstairs neighbors.

There are so many ways that your building will transmit sound from one apartment or room to another.


To try and be less of an asshole frankly...


I was due to be in a meeting and was super anxious about it due to having to report out on some stuff I'd been working on. That morning, before the meeting, my dad texted me with the line "there is fear in all of them". Had a profound impact on me and reminded me that we are all human and are all prone to worrying about stuff.


Oh God.. I got as far as reading SAS statistical software. I briefly got my hands dirty with that a little over ten years ago and remember thinking at the time how it was the ugliest most bug ridden heap of shit I'd ever had the misfortune of using.

Fortunately my time using it was on the order of a week or so.. it doesn't at all surprise me that the bug described was only (recently?) discovered.

The vendor of that product (I can't remember who that is) clearly had a serious quality control problem ten or so years ago -- purely going on SAS -- and it sounds like they still do...


A fondness for this language led me to develop (for fun) my own take on POP11 a few years back. Its kind of ‘POP11 with braces’ (since it uses braces for block and function scope, etc.) — https://github.com/benhj/arrow if anyone is interested.. A lot slower though due to its recursive tree interpreter and no way near as powerful.. one day I might try and implement a byte code compiler / vm for it..


I’m a guitarist and I can’t understand either.


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