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it’s just a button. and in a perfect world I wouldn’t even need a button


Not sure why you are downvoted, it is true.

Execution is everything and I have found that the ondevice index shipping with pixel devices displaying the title of the currently playing song on the lockscreen was such a better implementation than having to hurry up and remember where the shazam app is, open it, and try to identify the song (optionally having to try several times and store the sample for later when I have more network).


> (optionally having to try several times and store the sample for later when I have more network).

Weird you brought that up since in the pixel implementation you'd just lose the song forever.


Well, I am trying to stay impartial :) .

While I think it is the best execution so far, it is not perfect.


the reason i am being downvoted is because hacker news is fucking garbage now. too many insecure, underqualified jackasses looking for a reason to argue.


Sure. Search, Buy, Publish, Analyze, Like are also just buttons.

But there are tens of thousands of the best developers and billions in investment to make those buttons work.


what is your point?

saying the algorithm "wouldn't work" without an app is like saying my door doesn't work without a doorknob.

OP made a point: Shazam is not magic, and people have the opportunity to compete or DIY. to me, it seems simple/contrarian/not helpful to respond with "they have an app too"


The point is that saying Shazam is just a button ignores the huge amount of effort that sits behind it. Not just the technology but more importantly the sales and marketing to get to the number of users they have.

Amazon or Youtube are not magic either. But good luck getting to that same scale without significant effort.


> saying Shazam is just a button

Nobody said that.

colordrops was claiming that the app itself was important, on top of the backend effort.

And it's not. The app is trivial.


and saying "they have an app" is ignoring OP's actual point, which is all i am trying to defend. no one is calling into question the merit it's taken to build Shazam as a company.

how do i find myself defending the most ridiculous shit here?... like an algorithm can't work without a UI.

> guy 1: "index the Fourier Transform of all songs"

> guy 2: "[don't forget about] their huge database[!]"

how is this not contrarian? biz guy spotted? the dude straight up fucking said to build a database of "ALL SONGS". if you think that's simple you're either not thinking hard enough or you have no idea what he's talking about.


and the ones you do...


thread i participated in yesterday would suggest about half of HN welcomes it with open arms.


Half of HN are libertarian chuds these days, so it's not exactly a surprise.


news report confirms another instance of the US planning fake attacks on its own citizens for political purposes and your response is to chastise conspiracy theorists? your frustration seems a little misdirected.

which is the bigger offense?


Maybe he read the accompanying document and saw that wasn't a document recording any instance of "the US faking attacks on its own citizens for political purposes", merely a document about possibly acquiring MiGs which noted in passing that if such aircraft were acquired or replicas built without it becoming known there would be more potential for use in "a deception operation designed to confuse enemy planes in the air, to launch a surprise attack against enemy operations or a provocation operation in which Soviet aircraft would appear to attack US or friendly installations in order to provide an excuse for US intervention".


But it shows again that attacking your own citizen and blaming the enemy is a tactic that was considered a few times(or maybe more times) by the US government, this seems disgusting to start a war with false motives, it puts everything to doubt, so some people around the world doubt that US interventions had any other motivation then self interest and not self defense


I really don't think a passing reference to a hypothetical use of MiGs the US never actually manufactured is of any evidential value whatsoever in concluding that US interventions were motivated primarily by perceived self interest (which is already well-established fact)

The title is lurid clickbait.


My point is that this operation or similar ones are bad and the citizens should condemn them and not try to minimize the importance. As a citizen I would also disagree with my government to start a war and send my family members to die for false motives and for political reasons.


Why fake anything when propaganda works well enough.


“a provocation operation in which Soviet aircraft would appear to attack US or friendly installations to provide an excuse for U.S. intervention”

what is that, if not a fake attack for political purposes?


Did the document record anything happening? No

Did it happen? No.

Did you (initially) falsely imply it did? Yes.

This is the equivalent of shouting that a startup is proven to be on the brink of failing and lying about their finances because you've discovered a memo which notes that one of many advantages of contractors over employees is that you can get rid of them at short notice.


sorry, I’ve edited the word “planned” into my post as to not seem misleading. (forgive me for paraphrasing the title of the thread incorrectly).

unsurprisingly, it doesn’t actually change my point in the slightest. maybe we can have a more interesting conversation now.


I've also edited. It's the third on a list of three hypothetical examples of a situation in which undisclosed MiGs are of more potential use than disclosed MiGs.

This is a "plan" to attack its own citizens in the same sense as a document noting "contractors are better from the point of view of flexibility, workforce mobility and the ability to downsize the work force" is a plan for mass firings.


i don't think your analogy is strong. but instead of continuing to mince words... s/*/plan/ for literally whatever word you choose. and my point stands. discussed? evaluated? none of it makes me feel better.


I'd say "took into account the possibility of as a factor in the usefulness of something they didn't actually make" if we're splitting words here.

I mean, the hypothetical considerations of the advantages of continuous offshore nuclear deterrents over land-based ICBMs are considerably more detailed and ugly in their implications, but I'd still consider a headline arguing "$NuclearPower planned to exterminate every man woman and child living in $RivalState after watching millions of its own citizens die" to be rather misrepresenting the intent of such documents.


my only point is that however you interpret the article, pivoting your response towards mocking conspiracy theorists speaks more towards a personal peeve than an objective analysis of the documents. at best it's almost irrelevant. at worst it's ironic.


their use of "but" would suggest OP is definitely talking about Mozilla


Ah yes, apologies, I have edited my post to clarify my mistake.


yea, but we're not talking about the rest of the world in this thread, are we? also seems a little misguided to defend to a generalization with another generalization. no?

lighten up guys. it was kind of funny.


> If good full-body tracking comes to mainstream VR, we'll be doing it with cameras, not wearables.

you're not going to physically move your body through 3d space with cameras.

dude your post is all over the place. i can't ascertain if you play VR games or if you even watched the linked video.

and not for nothing, but you can't ask for no sensors and also ask for no dystopia. except we're not going to be fat, we're going to be plunged in some weird seasalt bath with no holes on our body anymore except the Lightning jack that's replaced our faces


so, they're using tech they built to help you walk faster... to make shoes that don't let you walk anywhere. science!

hope it works out, seems like an interesting solution.


What speeds you up forwards can probably be used to slow you down if pointed backwards


and no one in the equation killed you yet. :)


the percussion mode is really cool. it would be awesome if it could work with something like finger tapping (something like TableDrum).


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