There is a dedicated page explaining the difference between selfhosted and cloud versions: https://docs.netbird.io/selfhosted/self-hosted-vs-cloud-netb...

You can also use profiles and set management URL in the settings through the UI. You can even switch between self hosted and cloud versions: https://docs.netbird.io/client/profiles

Coturn is not needed in the new versions as STUN is embedded in the relay service now

Your usage is the best form of sponsorship haha

Would you mind sharing more about the issue? We have enterprises running NetBird with thousands of users with near zero issues. Apparently it is usually other way around - people migrating from Twingate to NetBird because of the former solution instability. Well, that is from our experience.

I suggest trying NetBird cloud to eliminate a potential misconfiguration of the self-hosted instance.

DNS resolution failures occurred inconsistently—sometimes due to browser caching when accessing web resources, but often for no apparent reason. For some users, restarting or reconnecting Netbird resolved it; for others, it didn't. The fact it worked flawlessly for some users while barely functioning for others suggests client-side issues. We also saw sporadic failures in cron jobs (like DB exporters) that never happened with Twingate. We followed the Helm chart configuration exactly and properly configured the Network Load Balancer with appropriate timeout settings.

Defguard as of my knowledge is a traditional VPN with a central gateway. NetBird is an overlay network with a full mesh capabilities. Though you can set it up in a gateway-like style with NetBird Networks but without opening ports and with HA out of the box: https://docs.netbird.io/manage/networks

That is awesome!

For example? Curious what is missing

It funnels and lets encrypt certs for me and I am really not a fan of the android client.

Got you. We are on it. One feature that is coming very soon is a reverse proxy .Similar to cloudflare tunnels. With auth, TLs, etc. Would it suffice?

+1 from me.

In general I would keep an eye on the path CF is following with warp: which is great, but since they are so big and in fast evolution, it is a bit of a mess (their doc is outdated and changes too frequently) not to count (literally) their support (free version, and our company's opinion only, of course) since on warp it is totally useless.

Roger that!

Would love to learn more around your android experience

Battery usage is like 10% higher than with tailscale over a day.

love it! :)

Not quite similar tho. Pangolin is a reverse proxy, NetBird is p2p mesh for internal resources remote access

It is not only a reverse proxy (which is actually just traefik), see this blog post https://pangolin.net/blog/posts/1-15-0-release

Pangolin is a hub-and-spoke style network. They actually have some comparisons between Netbird and Pangolin https://pangolin.net/blog/posts/pangolin-v-netbird and Pangolin and Tailscale https://pangolin.net/blog/posts/pangolin-v-tailscale