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That is nice but my bills still need to be paid.

I’ve been on both sides of the table for decades. I try to find ways to bind incentives from either side so that they are better aligned, but it’s always exploitative in one way or another. It’s just suboptimal. Perhaps employee owned businesses are the solution.

The solutions will always be the same: demurrage currency and land value taxes.

Perhaps. But that also erodes the stability islands that motivate people to be hyper productive, and encourages investment in external economies, starving the local economy. So I don’t think those work, or at least I’ve never seen a working example. Costco, on the other hand, and many other employee owned cooperatives do seem to align incentives better than most situations without discouraging investment.

demurrage currency otoh is probably worth looking closer at IF a way to build an equitable two-tiered system could be developed. Perhaps corporate money would be demurrage , with personal money that has passed through a tax window stable.


It is very obvious what and who caused the low living standards in North Korea and yet here we are decades later with no end in site.

Is it obvious? I suspect there are at least two sets of popular answers depending on what propaganda you consume.

There are not labor shortages. Instead we see massive youth unemployment.


And homo economist lived happy ever after with his field of spherical cows.


The judges of validity will be the architects of the current system.


If my job is shipped to India today why would I care that twenty years later the boss is Indian instead of American?


> If my job is shipped to India today

Immigration isn't "shipping the job to India". It's bringing the labor here and contributing to our economy. This might have a suppressive force on wages, but it lifts the overall economy and creates more opportunity and demand.

Offshoring is permanent loss. It causes whatever jobs and industry are still here to atrophy and die. The overall economy weakens. Your outlook in retirement will be bleaker.

If you have to pick between the two, it's obvious which one to pick.


> This might have a suppressive force on wages

And that's the general problem. People don't care about the overall economy when wages are going down and cost of living is going up. Even myself, I couldn't care less about the overall health of the economy. I care about being able to subsist mine and my family's life style, put food on the table, someday own a home, not live paycheck to paycheck because all the jobs are paying below a living wage, etc.

I'm extremely fortunate to make the salary that I do, but I know plenty of others not so fortunate, in other fields that don't pay nearly as well as tech does, and probably never will. The answer can't be "go into tech" nor should it be "let's suppress wages so labor isn't so expensive for our domestic companies." And obviously offshoring isn't great either.

We can still import talent without suppressing wages, by not abusing the program and actually only importing for roles that truly, beyond all reasonable doubt, could not be filled by a domestic worker.


Usually the next step of this failed discourse is to explain that locals are so entitled that they don't want to do hard jobs for the minimum wage, due to decades of wage suppression done thanks to immigration.

In France, being a cook used to pay very well, now that most cooks in Paris are from India or Sri Lanka, often without a proper visa or at the minimum wage, no local wants to do this anymore (working conditions are awful).

The industry then whines loudly about "the lack of qualified (cheap) workers"


According to their website NED is based in washington dc. The CIA hq is not in fairfax, it is in Langley. Even if they were in the same city that is an incredibly weak argument. Custom ink (the shirt company) is also in fairfax. Are they a cia front too?


Langley is part of Fairfax County. Much of northern Virginia is unincorporated Census Designated Places within counties.

Additionally, a large portion of NGOs are based in Fairfax county due to the proximity to DC.

The NRA headquarters is in Fairfax, and Maria Butina lived down the road from the NRA headquarters.

A fun game to play is following the source. For instance, when events in Xiajiang were getting nonstop coverage, nearly every article that came out would cite either the adrian zenz paper or an NGO's article, which would cite the paper.

Sometimes you'd have to go a few NGO layers deep. I repeated this experiment a few dozen times, about half would lead to an office park in Fairfax County. One time it was an Australian NGO that had the US DoD as a sponsor.

There is an entire industry around intelligence laundering and consent manufacturing.


Fairfax is pretty close, about 30 miles or 3-4 hours driving.


what?


DC metro traffic is hell!


Ah, the 30 miles threw me off.


3 hours for 30 miles is probaby an error, or an exaggeration, but knowing the traffic on the Maryland side of that metro area, it really is quite bad..


Can we see your documentation for this claim?


What part? NGO/thinktanks operating within a 30 minute drive to the nation's capital?

One such example is James Leibold, a scholar of Xinjiang ethnic policy. He would report on Xiajiang and the claimed genocide. He is an australian. He worked for the Jamestown Foundation based in DC.

On the Board of Directors for the Jamestown Foundation is a man named Michael G Vickers, who was previously the Under Secretary of Defense for intelligence, and worked at the CIA during the Soviet-Afghan War(The one where the US funded the Mujahadeen who immediately began throwing grenades into schools for girls).

Vickers was even featured in the book, "Charlie Wilson's War", about Operation Cyclone and the events which would eventually lead to blowback via 9/11, the war in Afghanistan, and the second Iraq war.

This is just one example. Any time you see articles like this, follow the sources. They either wont cite anything, or will cite a thinktank/NGO staffed by career intelligence workers and funded by similar groups.

https://jamestown.org/analyst/james-leibold/

https://jamestown.org/our-team/?department=board

https://jamestown.org/analyst/michael-vickers/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_G._Vickers


> What part? NGO/thinktanks operating within a 30 minute drive to the nation's capital?

That is a pedestrian fact. Any organization seeking influence in Washington will be located in Washington. This provides zero evidence that Washington pulls its strings or otherwise directs it.

Your whole screed is irrelevant. It gives no evidence regarding Iran Int'l.


The NED is a CIA-cut out says the New York Times: "The National Endowment for Democracy, created 15 years ago to do in the open what the Central Intelligence Agency has done surreptitiously for decades"[1].

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20161118042417/https://www.nytim...


1. That is simply an onlooker's opinion. 2. It provides no evidence that Iran Int'l is CIA backed.

If you're going to provide another link to a random journalist making assertions without evidence, save the trouble as it will be just as noncredible


Either way the question has to be:

a) HOW was the data acquired? b) WHO obtained the data?


Ask @DataRepublican on X, she compiles and posts these NED traces ... on X.


I find the interests do not align phrase telling. Because it is usually not the employee vs company interest, it is the employee vs the manager’s interest.


You have lost the plot. Get off your phone for a week.


Alternatively you could hire people from cultures where this crap doesn’t fly.


But that might cost more money! Trust me they'll be able to continue the work while you sleep!


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