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Last autumn we finally fell to third behind Microsoft, in fairness.. But we're also the second biggest contributors to WebKit (really significant there) and Gecko too, as well as the #1 contributors to Servo, and more - if you're interested: https://bkardell.com/blog/2024-Midseason.html


It's great to see the attention to servo growing - the number of people starring servo on gh just keeps going up! There's a chart on https://toot.cafe/@bkardell/112931971129556513

One big reason to want change is to change the funding model that currently supports the existing browser projects, which isn't great and is threatened too...


Bits of the servo project were integrated into FF/Gecko in Quantum (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/introducing-firefox-quan...) - there's shared work where improvements in either end can help either.


Interesting - I had never never seen nyxt - but it doesn't seem to be a new renderer as far as I can tell? I could be wrong! I'm curious if it is though! It seems to say in the FAQ it is agnostic and currently supports a few engines as the renderer https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/faq


Hi, Igalian here. I can tell you that Wolvic does not use Servo nor are there any immediate (or even long term at this point) plans for it to. That's not to say it couldn't happen someday or that it wouldn't be interesting. We are major contributors to a lot of major projects and many of them have something to do with web engines (see https://bkardell.com/blog/2023-Mid-Season-Power-Rankings.htm...) so it's easy enough to see connections, but the connections are mainly often more generally just "we have a lot of interest in web stuff, and a great reputation for contributing".


> It seems like some of the work that Igalia did was externally funded, but far from all of it.

Yes, that's right. Very far from all of it, but we're also very appreciative of those who did contribute funding. (I'm from Igalia/the host you're quoting)

> about doing some work on MathML in WebKit [sic; Blink presumably

https://twitter.com/webkit/status/756489720893411329?s=20&t=... for example was also Igalia


We do right?! Thanks.


Can you confirm this is a Gecko based browser? I find the wording a bit ambiguous in the article. Thanks!


Wolvic begins its evolutionary fork pretty close to where Firefox Reality left off, so yes, it is Gecko based.


Nice! Is Igalia planning to work on webXR support for Gecko?


It is clear from the website https://www.wolvic.com/ > Wolvic begins a new branch of the evolutionary tree of the Firefox Reality Browser.


Interesting observation. Fwiw, I am definitely very much a native english speaker (in fact, I don't speak any other (non-programming) language very well), and I proposed the name. As the post says at the end - it doesn't hurt that the domains are available if you don't use a "real" world. I guess we'll see if this happens.


Apologies if it's not the type of feedback you are looking for, but I strongly agree with the OP. I find the name so confusing that I have trouble even thinking about it. Quite possibly the problem is me, but if you are trying to reach an American audience, consider doing further audience testing before investing too heavily in the name.


As another anecdata point - I’m also a native English speaker (US) and I have no issues whatsoever with the name or pronunciation.


I get this take... You might find my post on this topic interesting https://bkardell.com/blog/wolvic.html


Very excited to see this, my ongoing prediction is that the metaverse will be WebXR based. No 30% cut from walled gardens, and sites can evolve from static, 2D flat experiences to immersive ones. Of course, apps will work day one on any headset in a platform-agnostic manner. And for the spark, just wait until the Apple headset ships with WebXR and WebGPU supported by default....

Also, my team are currently working on bringing Unreal Engine to WebXR.


One Metaverse based on WebXR + CRDT for shared state of the world on top of WebRTC, please. With React on top.

UE5?


Fantastic piece of history about TBL and Ian Ritchie.

When APK of Wolvic for Quest 2?

Edit — found it: https://github.com/Igalia/wolvic/releases/download/0.9.3/Wol...


This reminds me of Virtual Desktop on Value.


Very compelling post, thanks for sharing!




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