It's amazing how inefficient and cost prohibitive this tech is currently both for consumers, and large host.

Yes I like my crack at 20, bucks a month, but the tech is going to need to improve quick to keep that up.

This is the way.

I'm okay with spending 1000 on a screen and chassis, under the impression I upgrade the computer every 2 years. Unfortunately when a mainboard cost $1000, it's cheaper to buy a new machine every 2 years. This shouldn't be the case... Look at the chinese producing MoDT boards with full IO for $300 (likely the same shops who work with framework.

I like framework in the sense that I can ship of thesues my laptop the same way I can with a desktop, but at the end of the day, the premium is outrageous. If third parties start making framework compatible boards I'll buy into the ecosystem.

You can get a 7040 series Ryzen mainboard for $380.

https://frame.work/products/mainboard-amd-ryzen-7040-series?...

So I don't understand your $1000 complaint ... that's the most expensive mainboard they offer. You think Framework shouldn't offer the high end stuff?

The APU in the steam deck isn't anything too special (the 740M is comparable but is RDNA3). For the GabeCube they are using a customized 7600M, which previously has been used in many eGPUs for Chinese handhelds (at a very high price).

AMD does have some pretty powerful APUs right now, but I don't think we'll see it on many mass market

How customized it is, I guess we'll find out closer to release, but I am guessing just based on the dimensions that it is just customized specifically for the case, for space and cooling reasons.

A similar PC without the fit and finish with just consumer parts comes in at around $900.

Curious how much pull valve has with AMD to get this into people's hands.

They are pretty similar when comparing the latest amd, and Apple chips on the same node. The buying power from Apple means that they get them earlier than AMD, usually by 6-9 months.

Windows on the other hand is horribly optimized, not only for performance, but also for battery life. You see some better results from Linux, but again it takes a while for all of the optimizations to trickle down.

The tight optimization between the chip, operating system, and targeted compilation all come together to make a tightly integrated product. However comparing raw compute, and efficiency, the AMD products tend to match the capacity of any given node.

From personal experience, the great firewall picks up on wireguard usage when tunneling to my home computer (not in China) and throttles the connection. I am guessing that this would have similar limitations when using wireguard.