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You know who already made tens of millions in profits and will continue to because of stories like this? Market makers that redeem billions of USDT for cash with Tether/Bitfinex every time it goes under $0.99. Borrow USDT on leverage, cash out at $1 to US bank, mint USDC with Circle, swap to USDT, repay USDT loan and bank the difference, rinse and repeat until it's back to $1.


> Market makers that redeem billions of USDT for cash with Tether/Bitfinex

Have people actually seen the receipts for this? I'm skeptical that this actually occurs.


Hey, a highly reputable trader Sam Bankman Fried claims to habe done exactly that. His reputation is second to none.


It's not a risk free proposition, it's probably a losing proposition in the long term.

Every time it dips under $0.99, there's a chance it goes straight to $0 and cannot be cashed out anywhere.


I think that's likelihood is connected to the government resolve to rein in crypto shadiness, which given recent events seems like it's only starting to pick up.


This will absolutely happen some day


If the feds rate prediction are true, probably within the year.


why? tether can survive a 4.25% overnight rate and not 50%?


>there's a chance it goes straight to $0

Since Tether is fully backed the chance is really small.


They merely claim it is fully backed.


No, they also have third party attestations that it is fully backed.


Apparently those attestations are relatively recent in their history, but also not very convincing:

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/03/30/tether-takes-ste...

"as noted later in the article the composition of Tether’s assets is not spelled out in the attestation"

Meaning they may be backed by loans or fraud coins or anything.


Tether is not fully backed.


There is no proof of this. Despite many people complaining Tether continues to pay out billions dollars to people redeeming tethers.


what does that have to do with anything?

being able to pay out some portion of "deposits" is obviously not evidence of being "fully backed".


It is evidence that Tether isn't going to instantly crumple like what some Tether haters believe.

If you want evidence of being fully backed they have attestations on their transparency page that breaks down their assets.


nobody is redeeming tethers with bitfinex, they don't even have proper banking anywhere and their accounts are constantly shutdown by various entities.


Many of my Ukraininan/Russian friends would not be alive today if it wasn't for crypto, same goes for many journalists and innocent civilians that escaped controlling governments, war zones, hyperinflation etc. Show me another asset that you can take with you in times of crisis on a usb stick or piece of paper, and transact without middle-men globally. A significant number of people live in places where saying/doing something controversial can get your assets frozen (Canada '22) or much worse.

Sure BTC uses a lot of electricity, but so does the US military which is key to maintaining the $ as global reserve currency. There are many people and projects in crypto trying to do the right thing about energy (https://ethereum.org/en/energy-consumption/).

Dunno why you would fight against a fair, open, censorship-resistant, global financial system, unless you're a dictator. You won't need it, until you do.


> Dunno why you would fight against a fair, open, censorship-resistant, global financial system

If that's all it was then you would be correct, only nasty folks would be against it. But that's not all it is, or even the main thing it is. The same qualities that make it useful for your friends during a war also make it useful for various sorts of crime, but all the time not just under (what should be) highly unusual and dangerous circumstances.

The fight here is all of us against the dictators and warmongers. If we work to create a "fair, open, censorship-resistant, global financial system" together we can do that without enabling scammers and crooks.


How do you create an “open and censorship resistant system” that blocks only a specific category of people?

First we start with scammers and crooks, then fast forward a little, and suddenly now we are doing civil forfeitures?

Either something is permissionless, or it isn’t.


> How do you create an “open and censorship resistant system” that blocks only a specific category of people?

The current rise of ubiquitous surveillance is already creating a censorship-resistant system. Whether it's open or not is a matter of policy, rather than technology.

> First we start with scammers and crooks, then fast forward a little, and suddenly now we are doing civil forfeitures?

That's a really good point: I would hope if there were more footage of civil forfeiture it would be harder to get away with it, eh? If everybody can see what everybody else-- including police and politicians --is up to then we can only get away with what everybody (or most everybody) accepts. I call it the "Tyranny of Mrs. Grundy".


So you are proposing we just mail some camcorders to North Korea to end their tyranny?


You don't seem to be arguing in good faith.

FWIW, N. Korea is my go-to example for how NOT to organize a society. I have no idea what to do about them, and I'm grateful that it's not my problem.


> Whether it's open or not is a matter of policy

If you have to rely on some policy - it’s not censorship free.

You propose we literally rely on a trusted third party to adjudicate things.

AKA a literal censor? To make things censor free?


I enjoy a good discussion, but your rhetorical style is bad.

Above we're talking about "censorship-resistant" and here you've "moved the goalposts" to "censorship free".

What's your goal in this conversation? Do you want to fight or think?


The same way you would use redis to cache your expensive dbms queries, you can use this as the 'redis' for S3 blobs.

We use it at my firm to cache frequently accessed ML models and training data. Getting these directly from S3 can take a few seconds per blob, and with the cache it takes that down to milliseconds.


Drank a lot of G&Ts and wrote a serverless database https://github.com/adrianchifor/Bigbucket


Built this over the last two weeks of quarantine, let me know what you think :)


This looks very promising. Great idea. Would be interesting to hook it up to Min.io (S3 clone).


Yeah that would be cool, I'm working on S3 soon and as I understand Min.io is fully compatible with it, so it could be a drop-in replacement.


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