Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | T4NG's commentslogin

There's 0 negativity in this post and literally describes how a majority of 8chan's Pol board got a wave of user's same when people were getting banned on 4chan's /pol/ they just got routed to a different site.

These individuals dont disappear and it really doesnt take long to route to a new site. Fixing the udnerlying problem is a better idea than covering it with a band aid


>Several of these extremist sites even forbid and censor attempts at calm, level-headed rebuttals to such hatred

I'm gonna need something citations on being "forbid" or "censor' when posting on these sites. Plenty of people get rebuttaled and turn opinion in threads all the time.


Example:

The_Donald, Reddit's Trump supporter forum bans any speech that is critical of Trump.


That's not fair. It's a fan subreddit, you need to be a supporter. You can go to /r/askThe_Donald if you want to have a debate.

As a conservative if I go to /r/politics, I'll get my head chewed off with talking points and downvoted to oblivion if I try to debate anything, noone wants to listen. /r/askThe_Donald is a great place to have debates though, I wonder if there's an equivalent sub to ask liberals questions.


>It's a fan subreddit, you need to be a supporter.

A fan subreddit might be ok, a subreddit that actively perpetuates violence and extremely large amounts of lies/false information is not ok. It would be ok if The_Donald was just a forum where people hyped up Donald Trump, but a lot of people post large amounts of false information that all the viewers soak up. I think that's really toxic.

"head chewed off with talking points" doesn't sound particularly bad (it even sounds like a form of debate!), certainly better than being banned for life in The_Donald.


T_D does not perpetuate violence. Post proof for such a serious claim. There's misinformation on both sides.

Yelling != debating. You can't have a serious debate if the other side isn't listening. Some subs ban conservatives, others just let their subscribers attack them.

Go pretend to be a conservative on Reddit and see how you're treated, it might give you perspective.


t_d posts conspiracy theories and violence on a daily basis.

Also, conservatives != donald. Real conservatives do not support donald trump, as he is not a conservative. Perhaps you are mistaken.


>bans any speech that is critical of Trump

Id challenge that statement on whether its truthful or not, but we are talking about 8chan and 4chan here and they dont have the same level of reporting that would you get you removed from a thread


What he said about The Donald is correct.

People occasionally ask about this in Ask The Donald, which is basically T_D’s “meta”, and the response from T_D regulars and mods is always the same: T_D exists solely for circle jerking.


>An implicit acceptance and endorsement for the messages of hate and violence?

you mean the same thing alot of movies and videogames do also?


Why isn't there more of a highlight on Salameh's actual charges. This is grossly glossed over especially when understanding what you have to do to land oneself in a blacksite to begin with.


"It’s for this reason that I didn’t ask Salameh to tell me about his crimes. The harm he caused should not be forgotten, but it must be held apart. Under international law, the right to be free from torture is inalienable and absolute—and that protects all of us."


> what you have to do to land oneself in a blacksite to begin with

Yes, like going on vacation to visit relatives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar


It's pretty sinister that your first response is not to address the torture but "he must be guilty of something". The US has done plenty to demonstrate it will do far worse without wrongdoing by the victim.


yeah, tell that to the black teenagers dragged to Homan Square in Chicago


Secret prisons for citizens in 2019 Chicago? Shocking to hear about, America is truly lost.

What do we do when we hear about citizen torture administered by the state? I expect the news coming out will only get worse from here.


which would be exactly why I would want to know the charge's


"educated" is not the word I would say, I think people are just given the immediate effect and fear without any understanding what it means for long term effects for the country.


why would an addict want to better themselves in this situation?


Because most addicts want to better themselves and once basic needs are met they have the ability too.

The only change I'd make to this is to let addicts out, and not completely disconnect them from society.


Why do humans have motivations?


Alot of people have motivations or goals but never fulfill them, giving them incentive to not fulfill them at the same time makes no sense. in fact its doing the opposite by incentivizing complacency.


These arent the same issue, though I agree we shouldnt take medication lightly for depression or pain but there still exists a massive industry specialized for american consumers to have these products pushed on them from all angles.


Could mean local community farming hands will suffer from possible job loss and in turn cant make money the way they used to. If people lose those jobs where do they turn, people living in the rural communities do so out of cost or personal preference, so where do the former go if their income disappears?

I guess if you picture it more like in the movie Logan where its just a giant corporate run automated farm that displaces regular farmers who cant afford the setup that seems pretty dark and dystopic.


> If people lose those jobs where do they turn

Crime, because there won't be a robust safety net to catch them. (In the USA at least) However, there is a robust police state to catch them when they are criminals.

Priorities.


It's likely the area could also be used for new housing projects after the event. I do agree that it seems ridiculous to move the cultural landmark as it also displaces local restaurants and businesses.


The restaurants are in the outer market, which is not going anywhere. Only the inner/wholesale market, which was largely off limits to tourists, is moving.


I believe it's slated to be a parking lot


I don't think so.

Tsukiji is basically in Ginza (or very close), which is some of the most expensive reasl estate in the world.

A parking high-rise, maybe?


I read it'd be a bus hub for the Olympics, but I would bet money that it too will be razed right after the games to accommodate the more prevalent need of housing or business development.


I'm very curious to know why you were downvoted


It may have been the comment about women laughing at salad instead of champagne, which sounds vaguely sexist....well, I do not comprehend its intent but I suspect it is some cultural reference of which I am not aware, and not actually sexist. The rest of the comment is interesting so I upvoted.


"Women laughing alone with salad" is a meme. If you look through magazines targeted at women, they're full of images of a woman holding a salad in one hand and a fork in the other and laughing at something the viewer has to guess at. There's an entire blog devoted to it[0].

[0] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/women-laughing-alone-with-sal...


I'd venture to say you are right:

GP:"the women sipping from glasses of champagne and laughing"

OP:"[instead] women seem to laugh at salad rather than champagne."

i.e. in actual modern life the ultimate debonaire lifestyle, as depicted by the likes of instagram, doesn't focus on smiling over exclusive alcohol as much as it does on smiling over exotic salads.


Kind of, "women laughing at salad" is a very odd (possibly unintentional) category of stock photography. https://www.thehairpin.com/2011/01/women-laughing-alone-with...

So when he mentioned women sipping champagne and laughing, it brought the image to my mind.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: