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That's fair. RCV does break down with a large number of candidates. Though doesn't star voting have some odd corner cases? Regardless, every alternative scheme I've seen seriously proposed would be a massive improvement over FPTP.

this is dead simple. thousands of voters have had no problem. https://approval.vote/

if you really want to get into the game theory, here it is. https://www.rangevoting.org/RVstrat6


it's the worst of the commonly discussed alternatives.

https://www.rangevoting.org/BayRegsFig


Thank you for your expert opinion. Unlike yourself and your colleague[0], I am not an expert on voting systems and infrastructure.

I am just a consumer of such things and have exactly zero say in my town's approach to voting.

I do know that RCV is better than FPTP, even more so if we don't, at least, require a majority, and am glad my town is at least making a start at such things.

That said, I'd love to make it even better.

As I suggested[1] to your colleague, it would be terrific if your expertise could be used to improve the voting system where I live.

I'd expect that the folks[2] who make such decisions could be convinced to re-frame things in another referendum based upon the recommendations of you and your organization. I know I'd certainly appreciate it!

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47035812

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47036908

[2] https://www.vote.nyc/page/contact-us


LOL, people get it just fine. fargo adopted it by a 64% supermajority and st louis adopted it by a 68% supermajority.

https://approval.vote/

> You can explain to me until you're blue in the face why approval is strictly better even in this situation, but I am emotionally attached to my vote counting for Bernie more than any other candidate, so reason isn't going to work on my lizard brain.

but your actual strategy is to rank hillary in 1st because bernie can't win. or, in the case of my aunt, she preferred warren but voted biden to beat trump. she would have ranked them biden>warren>trump in a ranked election for that very reason. this is called "compromise strategy".

bro, approving both of them is better than being strategically forced to say that you prefer clinton to bernie or biden to warren.


Welp, you just proved my point. I still don't get it. I want to vote my preference and I don't want to vote Hillary and Bernie equally. shrug.

it's ironic that approval voting is better, but people therefore often wrongly think it's less optimal, when it's actually _more_ optimal.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190219005733/https://sites.goo...

you used to live across the street from me on harper street in berkeley by the way.




Read the book ADHD is awesome. I read the audiobook during a recent solo trip to London because my son was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago and I wanted to understand him better and be more patient with him. I think a lot of it he gets from me and I relate to a lot of this stuff where where, all I want to do is work on these crazy ideas all day. I co-founded a non-profit that does electoral reform because I want to optimize everything. I learned Esperanto I type on a dvorak key map etc. everywhere I look all I see is things to be optimized. but I'm able to manage it fairly well to hold down a software engineering job. I think he has not learned that yet so he struggles. but reading this book helped me see him and understand him better instead of just getting frustrated with him.


yes. election by jury is the good parts of sortition without the bad parts. https://www.electionbyjury.org/

approval voting is great. i co-founded a major non-profit that got it adopted in fargo and st louis. for election by jury i'd advocate score voting, since higher resolution is more valuable with small groups.


election by jury is better. elections aren't the problem — uninformed voters are the problem. especially if the turnout is statistically demographically biased (older, whiter, wealthier, more conservative, etc.)

https://www.electionbyjury.org/


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